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Media;'/><category term='Spirituality'/><category term='social media'/><category term='SHAPE'/><category term='Death'/><category term='Holy Spirt'/><category term='Fatalism'/><category term='Neil Short'/><title type='text'>Rev in Training</title><subtitle type='html'>Reflections and personal opinions on the vicar training process; matters spiritual; religious and other things that occur and may seem relevant on the journey.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>113</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-2054277709960431566</id><published>2012-02-25T16:01:00.000Z</published><updated>2012-02-25T18:02:11.918Z</updated><title type='text'>A privilege to serve - Curate's annual report to OPC</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iWfLJ4Z-u3k/T0kFqMSI3oI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uaHrqdBQsgc/s1600/5828501698_6c9f5c7ee5.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iWfLJ4Z-u3k/T0kFqMSI3oI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uaHrqdBQsgc/s200/5828501698_6c9f5c7ee5.jpg" width="133" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;If we forget that it is a privilege to serve thenour service can be nothing but vanity. Last year, the year of Priesting, I havebeen reminded of that privilege in so many ways. In the ability to preside atthe Lord’s Table, the joyous occasion of marriage, the bringing of children forbaptism.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Above all it is the privilege of being part of acommunity stumbling together on our journey towards an understanding of who Godis and what he means in our lives. This is a lifelong exploration where we mustseek to encounter the whole of God, not get locked into our own image of God.That’s what I have enjoyed about the teaching series as they give us anopportunity to challenge ourselves to explore&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;I spent a large part of the year exploring what itmeans to preside at Holy Communion. There are two parts to this. A practical,ensuring that everything is in place and the service flows nicely, part. Aspiritual part - exploring the deeper meaning of the sacrament and the encounterwe get with God through the Eucharist.&amp;nbsp; Ihave noticed the distinct characteristics that our different services bring tothe Eucharist and they all say something profound about our relationship withGod. I look forward to continuing the exploration. Taking communion is a vitalpart of our spiritual development – exploring how we continue to make itrelevant to today’s culture is an important challenge for us all.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;I have loved conducting weddings. The couples Ihave married have been delightful and it is great to share with them theirhappy day and to be part of the expression of God’s love and blessing on theirlives. We must work harder to encourage church weddings. It is more than afinancial opportunity, a pastoral service, a chance to share our finebuildings. It is mission. It is a time when people come willing to us and weneed to make the most of the opportunities God gives us.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;I am delighted that the multi-faith chaplaincy atEdge Hill is starting to bear fruit. The result of much patient work from Chrishas seen us able to be a presence among the students and staff at this greatinstitution. As former Edge Hill students both Angela and I know the pressuresof campus life. So to be involved, to show that Christian presence is adelight. It will take a lot of patient work but it is important to go out intothe community and show different ways of expressing God’s love.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;There is so much to do but great reward in thedoing. A benefit of being at Ormskirk is the great range and talent within theleadership team and across all congregations. Nobody has the full set of skillsand abilities. Everyone has different interests and hearts to reach differentparts of our community. This gives us richness in our collective witness. Asindividuals we can achieve much. As a whole body of Christ we can reach out toso many more.&amp;nbsp; I am proud and privilegedto be part of this community. I thank all who have supported, and put up with,me over the year and pray that together we continue to grow in love and serviceof our Lord.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-2054277709960431566?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/2054277709960431566/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=2054277709960431566' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2054277709960431566'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2054277709960431566'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2012/02/privilege-to-serve-curates-annual.html' title='A privilege to serve - Curate&apos;s annual report to OPC'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iWfLJ4Z-u3k/T0kFqMSI3oI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uaHrqdBQsgc/s72-c/5828501698_6c9f5c7ee5.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-3545951923605271946</id><published>2012-02-18T13:05:00.001Z</published><updated>2012-02-18T13:05:32.272Z</updated><title type='text'>Exploring our values through the Revelation Letters</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Wl55aRY4Br4/Tz-Ua-V2q6I/AAAAAAAAAEQ/meZ5v6br2p8/s1600/revelation_churches2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="214" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Wl55aRY4Br4/Tz-Ua-V2q6I/AAAAAAAAAEQ/meZ5v6br2p8/s320/revelation_churches2.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Over the last 7 weeks the letters to the sevenchurches in&lt;span class="apple-converted-space"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%202-%203&amp;amp;version=NIV" target="_blank"&gt;Revelation 2-3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="apple-converted-space"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;haveprovided a backdrop to our teaching on our churches values. My main preachingwas on the letter to Thyatira but I have also looked at &lt;st1:city w:st="on"&gt;Philadelphia&lt;/st1:city&gt;and today am considering &lt;st1:city w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Laodicea&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;.We've been trying to hear God's word through these letters as we consider ourvalues of encountering God, encouraging one another, embracing diversity,valuing everybody and expressing God's love. It's been a challenge, which youwould expect from Revelation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 13.5pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;ButRevelation is always worth tackling. Once we get beyond the difficult imageryand away from trying literal end of the world interpretations we can start todelight in its depth. And for me, like so much in the bible, it carries apoetic truth that enables me to explore my relationship with God. It's anobvious point but I can easily lapse into proclaiming a one dimensional God.Through an intention to demonstrate His loving nature I offer a too cuddlyJesus. Texts like Revelation provide a wonderful counterweight to my misplacedgood intentions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 13.5pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Butit is important that we encounter the full picture of God if we are to say welive under His authority. Our struggles, our explorations and our teachingsmust strive to connect with the entire revelation of God through the entire 66books. Not a narrow, biased definition, but a broad interpretation which takesus into passages we find difficult and areas which seem to conflict andcontradict our beliefs and values. We must not be afraid of this. There is richnessin the struggle.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 13.5pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Justthis week I did a question and answer session at&lt;span class="apple-converted-space"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.winstanley.ac.uk/" target="_blank"&gt;Winstanley College&lt;/a&gt;. Lots of stimulating questions to whichI tried to express my beliefs. But the honest, if somewhat unsatisfactoryanswer to most of them should have been I don't know. We shouldn't be afraid ofthe don't know. It's part of the journey and struggle. I worry more about thosewho are too definitive in their response. Our teaching should be aboutencouraging the exploration not providing a narrow answer&lt;i&gt;(&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=genesis%2032:%2023-34&amp;amp;version=NIV" target="_blank"&gt;that's why I always hold the text of Jacob wrestling God as akey one in my life&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 13.5pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Inour struggles we will find much encouragement. Nearly all the letters have somewords to commend the church that is receiving the message. And why not? Godstarts from a point of love, from the point that we are "Fearfully andWonderfully made". We haven't&amp;nbsp;earned His love or encouragement butHis grace gives it freely. We should remember that at all times. Give praisefor God is good. Interestingly in the harshness of the letter to&amp;nbsp;&lt;st1:city w:st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Laodicea&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; He says"those whom I love I rebuke and discipline". Because he carespassionately about us he has passionate things to say. But the foundation islove.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 13.5pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Butwe struggle, as the New Testament churches struggled, with the fact that we liveand deal with a broken world. We are called to walk the same walk, to standalongside the communities we find ourselves in, share the problems. Thiscreates a&amp;nbsp;dilemma. Do we then let the values of society dominate andpotentially corrupt? Or do we turn aside from the world, trying to live in aholy enclave.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 13.5pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/The_Book_of_Revelation.html?id=LJU5G8dBNcMC&amp;amp;redir_esc=y" target="_blank"&gt;In his commentary&lt;/a&gt;, Leon Morris speaks ofthis&amp;nbsp;dilemma&amp;nbsp;when he talks about the letter to Thyatira&lt;span class="apple-converted-space"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;"On the one hand Christiansmust not deny the faith. On the other, they must not deny their membership ofsociety. The cause of Christ is not served if Christians appear as a group ofold-fashioned people always trying to retreat from the real world. Christianslive in the same world as their neighbours and face the same problems. Theymust find Christian solutions."&lt;span class="apple-converted-space"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;Thisis so true. But as Bishop James said in a Presidential Address to our diocesansynod sometimes we must listen to society for they are ahead of the thinking ofthe church. At others we must hold fast. We pray for the wisdom to discern. Forwe all need to decide, under the authority of God and using the wisdom ofscripture, how far we adopt the standards and practices of society.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 13.5pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Butas I reflect on tomorrow’s sermon I am clear that Jesus calls us to bepassionate. "I know your deeds, that you are&lt;span class="apple-converted-space"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;neither cold nor hot&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="apple-converted-space"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I wish you were either one or theother!&lt;span class="apple-converted-space"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;So, because you arelukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.&lt;span class="apple-converted-space"&gt;" How we don't express that passion. We canexpress it for several other aspects of our lives - our music, sports, film, tvobsessions. But God? Too often we are apologetic about rather than passionatefor. And as we live in, as many commentators are stating, a world of militantsecularism we need to be more passionate about our faith. Not for our own sake,but for the sake of those who have yet to hear, yet to know and yet to feel Godin there lives. This is not a call to fundamental proclamations but rather adesire for people to stand up and say I am not ashamed. Worship is important.God has done so much and I want so many to know about this&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 13.5pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Thereward is great. "I will give you the morning star"; "I willgive the right to sit down with me at the throne". The promise is thepromise to be with God in heaven, where there will be no more pain and God willwipe away our tears.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 13.5pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Surelythat is worth proclaiming with a passion?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 13.5pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-3545951923605271946?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/3545951923605271946/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=3545951923605271946' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3545951923605271946'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3545951923605271946'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2012/02/exploring-our-values-through-revelation.html' title='Exploring our values through the Revelation Letters'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Wl55aRY4Br4/Tz-Ua-V2q6I/AAAAAAAAAEQ/meZ5v6br2p8/s72-c/revelation_churches2.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-7909051693109989647</id><published>2012-02-16T10:35:00.001Z</published><updated>2012-02-16T10:35:15.807Z</updated><title type='text'>We need the religious voice in the political world</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11.0pt;"&gt;Itseems to have been a fortnight for battering the church and questioning itsrole in society. From the ruling about council prayers in Bideford to thelatest survey sponsored by Richard Dawkins claiming that those who think ofthemselves as Christian show very low levels of Christian behaviour andpractice. All this seems to have come to a head with Baroness Warsi’s commentsthat “militant secularism is taking hold of British society.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11.0pt;"&gt;Asa local gatekeeper to the Church of England’s reputation I feel the pressure ismounting and fear that a rising political temperature could create much rancourbetween those with different ideologies and world views.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11.0pt;"&gt;Let’sbe clear. The church does not have a monopoly on truth but we do have a vitalrole in the attempt to create a better society for all. One undeniable factabout the Church of England is that our parish system ensures a presence inevery community. From this perspective, and with the priest’s calling to havethe “cure of all souls” - a concern for everyone who lives in the area whetherthey attend church or not, we can see and share the struggles of thosecommunities. This gives our Bishops an authority to speak in the House of Lords– and of late many have had cause to thank them for their interventions.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11.0pt;"&gt;Christianswork together to form our morals and principles around an understanding of whatGod wants for our lives. I think that is important. I get increasinglyconcerned that society’s values can be driven by the self interests of a smallpowerful clique. Through the church attempting to understand what God is sayingto us the voice of the marginalised and vulnerable can be heard. We have thismodelled to us through the life and teachings of Jesus, a political radical whosided with the marginalised outcast in the struggle against the dominant powersof his time. This voice is important today, it needs to be heard not sidelined.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11.0pt;"&gt;Soprayers at the beginning of a meeting helps with that grounding. It remindspeople of their wider responsibilities. Opening up the possibility of God must prompteven the unbeliever to sometimes think there are greater considerations thanmere self interest. Without that standpoint we run the risk of worse decisionsand far greater problems.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11.0pt;"&gt;Prayeris a legitimate valid response to the world’s needs. We have seen that inLiverpool with the interest in the Anglican Cathedral’s Pray for the EconomyLabyrinth at the moment and Prayer for &lt;st1:place w:st="on"&gt;Liverpool&lt;/st1:place&gt;in 2009. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11.0pt;"&gt;Ithink most people still see the value of the religious voice in society. It hasserved society for millennia and despite the militant secular voices I thinkmost people value the input of the church.&amp;nbsp;As a church we need to continue to recognise and work alongside thosewith other world views but the religious voice is important and must continue.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-7909051693109989647?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/7909051693109989647/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=7909051693109989647' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7909051693109989647'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7909051693109989647'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2012/02/we-need-religious-voice-in-political.html' title='We need the religious voice in the political world'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-2321124113918295156</id><published>2012-01-28T14:08:00.000Z</published><updated>2012-01-28T14:08:00.009Z</updated><title type='text'>People not performance targets</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Parents evening this week and our first unscheduled meeting was with a senior staff member expressing&amp;nbsp;disappointment&amp;nbsp;that our son hadn't put himself in for the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.education.gov.uk/schools/teachingandlearning/qualifications/englishbac/a0075975/theenglishbaccalaureate" style="font-size: small;" target="_blank"&gt;Baccalaureate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;. A civil conversation couched in the terms of it being in our best interests for his future prospects. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;But.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;It turns out that staff and pupils have had a number of these conversations in school and the school seems very interested in ensuring that as many as possible follow this route. The problem was that our son, was really interested in Business Studies and in the limited options available something had to give.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;The problem this causes is not&amp;nbsp;insurmountable but it raises an underlying concern over the way education works today.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;I cannot shake the feeling that the school's insistence is founded in their need and desire for good performance statistics. That the children, my children are simply education&amp;nbsp;commodities&amp;nbsp;who are being mentally labelled into the bright achievers - pushed towards the Baccalaureate or the underachievers &amp;nbsp;- slotted into their Learning for Life courses. And regardless of your individual interests, desires or ambitions pupils are put under pressure to conform with the labels the school has given.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;And the Baccalaureate is not a qualification. It's a performance measure. The government's website says so. This can only lead to the&amp;nbsp;suspicion&amp;nbsp;that is is the school not the individual that benefits from pupils going down this route.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wW6x3nS3LzE/TyP3evIvHjI/AAAAAAAAAEE/5YXr_El6onk/s1600/FTL.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wW6x3nS3LzE/TyP3evIvHjI/AAAAAAAAAEE/5YXr_El6onk/s200/FTL.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Now on one level I don't blame the school. They are just reacting to the wider pressures put on them by an insane governmental policy driven by a political desire to show the media that things are getting better. But they ignore that we are dealing with humans with potentials, desires, gifts and abilities that we can only dream of. We certainly cannot categorise.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;It hits to the heart of what do we think education is about. When studying&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Times-Wordsworth-Classics-Charles-Dickens/dp/1853262323/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1327755905&amp;amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank"&gt;Dicken's Hard Times&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;for A-Level (many moons ago) our class compared the educational philosophy as portrayed by &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gradgrind" target="_blank"&gt;Gradgrind&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;to those of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summerhill_School" target="_blank"&gt;Summerhill School&lt;/a&gt; or the Student Centred Learning ideas of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Rogers" target="_blank"&gt;Carl Rogers&lt;/a&gt;. Yeah ok - his book &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Freedom-Learn-80s-Carl-Rogers/dp/0675200121" target="_blank"&gt;Freedom to Learn in the 80's&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;does date me. I forget the detail but the idea that education should be about more than targets and outcomes struck me then and remains with me now. We should delight in the exploration of what interests us in the wonders of this world not be narrowly sent down a preset road that enables us to fulfill what some mandarin says we should know. And you can see that in the many individuals who are expert in an area, hobby, interest that they have found, loved and researched for themselves.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;And from a Christian perspective this goes deeper. If we believe that God has fearfully, wonderfully and uniquely made us and that He loves us for who we are before we bring any gifts or service to the table then we must fight for the individual. To enable the person to grow and flourish in the way that they want. To have the freedom to learn more about what excites them. That is true in how we teach and disciple the Christian journey. As preachers and teachers we should aim to open people's eyes to the wonders of God's love, the joys of His scripture and the marvels of the church community and give them the freedom to learn and explore in the direction they wish.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;But how often do we worry about the target not the person?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-2321124113918295156?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/2321124113918295156/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=2321124113918295156' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2321124113918295156'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2321124113918295156'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2012/01/people-not-performance-targets.html' title='People not performance targets'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wW6x3nS3LzE/TyP3evIvHjI/AAAAAAAAAEE/5YXr_El6onk/s72-c/FTL.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-6370661148709176572</id><published>2012-01-04T21:47:00.000Z</published><updated>2012-01-05T13:30:58.855Z</updated><title type='text'>Accepting the gift</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;I have a problem with the giving thing. It's probably because I'm rubbish at all the selecting stuff. But also I have some problems with the expression of love through material goods. Me and Mrs H will rarely exchange valentines and similar cards as we feel we are simply giving to Hallmark, not each other.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;And I have always been bothered about the unsaid reciprocity of gift giving. When I first started going to the pub with my mates we often had a tedious conversation which went somewhat like&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Me: "do you want a pint"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Friend: "well if you buy this round I'll get the next"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Me: "Not the point, I am buying you a pint because I want to, not because I want one back"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Not sure if that made me popular.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YKsBZBHVXUI/TwTHr-zjzRI/AAAAAAAAAD4/4R6nPYtZI3g/s1600/41PXD7HFM0L._SL500_AA300_.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YKsBZBHVXUI/TwTHr-zjzRI/AAAAAAAAAD4/4R6nPYtZI3g/s1600/41PXD7HFM0L._SL500_AA300_.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;But there is something in the art of receiving gifts. Year's ago I read a quote which has inspired "accept the gift for in accepting the gift you honour the giver". Written by &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_R._Donaldson" target="_blank"&gt;Stephen Donaldson&lt;/a&gt; in his fantasy novel "&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Foul's_Bane" target="_blank"&gt;Lord Foul's Bane"&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;it speaks of how we properly repay someone else's kindness.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Of course from the Christian perspective the gift we offer was the one freely given. Though creation to the cross God gave His love, His grace, His forgiveness. All we have to do is honour Him by accepting that gift.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;In the last few days there has been much kindness. From time spent, food&amp;nbsp;offered, calls made to messages sent and statuses liked there has been much kindness.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;I hope I honour you all by accepting those gifts.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-6370661148709176572?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/6370661148709176572/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=6370661148709176572' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6370661148709176572'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6370661148709176572'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2012/01/accepting-gift.html' title='Accepting the gift'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YKsBZBHVXUI/TwTHr-zjzRI/AAAAAAAAAD4/4R6nPYtZI3g/s72-c/41PXD7HFM0L._SL500_AA300_.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-474034322967040517</id><published>2011-12-31T12:15:00.004Z</published><updated>2011-12-31T13:35:32.169Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Les Miserables'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='wedding'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='corinthians'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Victor Hugo'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='love'/><title type='text'>Four Weddings</title><content type='html'>&lt;span  &gt;I always knew that one of the priesthood privileges and challenges would be conducting weddings. It has been interesting, revealing what I believe is a critical tension for today's ministers. The wedding is a a customer service, income generator that can be, and is, &lt;a href="http://www.yourchurchwedding.org/"&gt;marketed in competition&lt;/a&gt; with other venues. Yet it is also the vital foundation stone for what we pray is a permanent relationship. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span  &gt;It is the expression of love between a couple, the witness of that love by their friends and family and outpouring of God's love upon bride and groom that is of supreme importance to me. I want the couple to have as much of the peripherals that we can possibly offer. Inappropriate hymns, music, nick nacks or whatever are of little import in my head.If it helps people relax into the service that is fine. But the declarations, vows and exchange of rings are the heart we need to get to - some fine words that can be mumbled at rote, glossed over in seconds, yet words that hold the key to what will help the relationship last well beyond the after dinner speeches. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span  &gt;Mostly the readings chosen have been the familiar &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians+13&amp;amp;version=CEV"&gt;Corinthians 13&lt;/a&gt; with its wonderful advice on the characteristics of love. Its patience and forgiveness, unselfish nature and lack of pride are all qualities we aspire to, if sometimes fall short of in our loving relationships. This is the message I have wanted the couples to hear and hold in their hearts. For we all know that no marriage is immune from difficulties &lt;i&gt;"for better, for worse, in sickness and health"&lt;/i&gt; but in our disposable world we seem to have made marriage disposable. As another celebrity couple fail to last much more than a year of marriage I wonder how easily people forget the love that brought them together. Or was that love so shallow it could not be sustained, in which case the words of Paul seem to be needed more keenly. I still can't understand the acrimony that surrounds some break ups, like the couple seem to have forgotten what attracted them to each other in the first place. It's not that people should stick together no matter what but if that love had any truth or meaning then surely acrimony, hurt and bitterness can be avoided in the end.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span  &gt;Hopefully that will not happen to the four couples I have had the honour to marry this year. I sensed in them all an understanding of that central commitment. The true meaning which was hopefully the reason that drew them to a church wedding in the first place. But also I hope that they experienced some of the love that God wants to express towards them at this time. We had a lovely reading from &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Mis%C3%A9rables"&gt;Victor Hugo's Les Miserables&lt;/a&gt; at the wedding yesterday.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span &gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span &gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38); font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "&gt;You can give without loving, but you can never love without giving. The great acts of love are done by those who are habitually performing small acts of kindness. We pardon to the extent that we love. Love is knowing that even when you are alone, you will never be lonely again. And great happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved. Loved for ourselves. And even loved in spite of ourselves."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38); font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38); font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;span &gt;Clear echoes of Corinthians but what strikes me hard is the last line "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-size: small; "&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38); font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "&gt;And great happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved. Loved for ourselves. And even loved in spite of ourselves."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span   &gt;  for that expresses God perfectly. We all need to feel loved and most of us have times when we struggle to love ourselves. So we look to find ways to mask that lack of love we have for ourselves. To work through that insecurity in any way we can - however destructive that may be. Yet to truly know we are loved without condition and in spite of ourselves in the most marvellous&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38); font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: small; "&gt; gift we can be offered. God offers that us. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38); font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: small; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38); font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: small; "&gt;My prayer is that through their marriages each of those couples may be blessed by their love for each other and be truly blessed in the knowledge of a God who loves them. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38); font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: small; "&gt;Unconditionally. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-474034322967040517?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/474034322967040517/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=474034322967040517' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/474034322967040517'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/474034322967040517'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/12/four-weddings.html' title='Four Weddings'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-4150904750171496940</id><published>2011-11-06T19:43:00.003Z</published><updated>2011-11-06T20:02:19.954Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='SHAPE'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Psalm 139'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jesus Baptism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Guillemots'/><title type='text'>Take my hand and say that I'm amazing</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;It's  a bit of a misheard &lt;a href="http://www.guillemots.com/"&gt;Guillemots&lt;/a&gt; lyric from their album Walk the River and performed at their gig in the Stanley Theatre, Liverpool last night. But it helped illustrate a point for my talk on our &lt;a href="http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/11/not-sure-about-shape-im-in.html"&gt;SHAPE&lt;/a&gt; this morning. In the lyric I heard the angst of a generation that, as the lyricist says, "I don't feel amazing".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;This links to God's magnificent pronouncement at Jesus's baptism - &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%203:%2013-16&amp;amp;version=NIV"&gt;"this is my Son with whom I am well pleased"&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Two thoughts arise. One, Jesus hadn't really earned this praise. It was at the start, before he had done anything, achieved anything. Unearned yet freely given. And the love of the Father to His Son extends beyond Jesus to us all. Made in His image fashioned by his hands we are loved by a God who thinks we are amazing before we start. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Watching A Life in a Day the other night I was struck by the comments of one man, looking after a family on his own (his wife had died), living in squalor with none of our benefits yet still able to say that God had created him so why would he forget him. He knew that God found him amazing. (it was great film as well)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/bT_UmBHMYzg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second though is that if God wants us to know we are amazing he wants us to tell others. We are his mouthpiece, his voice. But how often do we run each other down or at best simply forget to praise each other for our achievements. Or for just being who we are. We are amazing because we are fearfully and wonderfully made. &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;We should take time to remind ourselves of that fact.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-4150904750171496940?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/4150904750171496940/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=4150904750171496940' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/4150904750171496940'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/4150904750171496940'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/11/take-my-hand-and-say-that-im-amazing.html' title='Take my hand and say that I&apos;m amazing'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/bT_UmBHMYzg/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-8693755993715939232</id><published>2011-11-05T11:11:00.002Z</published><updated>2011-11-05T11:39:02.815Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='SHAPE'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='purpose'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rick Warren'/><title type='text'>Not sure about the SHAPE I'm in</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Our latest 9:45 series winds up tomorrow as we consider how God has &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=psalm%20139:%2013-18&amp;amp;version=NIV"&gt;Fearfully and Wonderfully Made&lt;/a&gt; us unique, special and loved in his eyes. We have looked at how we have been formed for the purpose of serving Him and and how we can use our Spiritual Gifts; Heart; Abilities; Personality; and Experience (SHAPE geddit!) to guide us to a ministry that suits and fulfills us. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;This week I am talking about how we should delight in the people we are (this is my Son with whom I am well pleased); develop the people we are (always on the journey); and importantly not compare our SHAPE with others.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;And therein lies the rub. I struggle with that. Big time. I know it is only natural and we do all do it but it does no good. I look around me and see that everyone else is better at communication work, pastoral work, preaching, being a priest, being a husband, more talented, more handsome more, more more. It sounds like depressive hand-wringing but it isn't meant to be. It is the product of comparison that Paul warns us against and Rick Warren, whose book Purpose Driven Life is the source for this series, comments "you will always be able to find someone who seems to be doing a better job than you and you will become discouraged". Rick also warns against the opposite attitude (not a trap I often fall into) saying that "either attitude will take you out of service and rob you of your joy".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;He's right. But in this competitive, comparative world it's easier said than done. May God's strength encourage all to delight in His joy and purpose not our own competitive desires.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-8693755993715939232?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/8693755993715939232/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=8693755993715939232' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8693755993715939232'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8693755993715939232'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/11/not-sure-about-shape-im-in.html' title='Not sure about the SHAPE I&apos;m in'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-6550895682904822807</id><published>2011-10-03T20:13:00.006+01:00</published><updated>2011-10-03T21:31:34.520+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Proverbs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='readathon'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='King James Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible Reading'/><title type='text'>Reading out loud</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Ten minutes into my allotted reading as part of Ormskirk Parish Church's bible readathon and I was struck by the power of the words I was uttering. Its not that I haven't read the opening chapters of &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%201-%204&amp;amp;version=NIV"&gt;Proverbs &lt;/a&gt;before but hearing the words come alive in the nearly empty church building gave them a real resonance and power. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;It reminded me that scripture was meant to be spoken aloud. That there is power in the intonation of those well crafted words. Fittingly the readathon our parish's attempt to mark the 400th anniversary of the King James Version of the Bible. This translation has probably had as much, if not more, linguistic than spiritual &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small; "&gt;influence with phrases resonating down the ages. In fact, although I didn't recognise it at the time, my first scriptural encounter was with the marvelously poetic &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%201&amp;amp;version=KJV"&gt;John 1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;I think my general reflection matches my thoughts on &lt;a href="http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/07/problem-with-our-traditional-services.html"&gt;traditional worship&lt;/a&gt;  - that it is in the delivery. Read dully and the bible sends people to sleep soundly. Scripture needs to be brought alive. This is not necessarily achieved through dramatised readings and silly voices. It is always done by having a passion for the spirit and the Word that runs through the entirety of God's scripture. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Hear more of that, hear more of the passion of God's Word and maybe we will get closer to the living God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-6550895682904822807?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/6550895682904822807/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=6550895682904822807' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6550895682904822807'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6550895682904822807'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/10/reading-out-loud.html' title='Reading out loud'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-6497635157252993373</id><published>2011-09-12T19:00:00.005+01:00</published><updated>2011-09-12T19:45:40.604+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Edge Hill University'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Multi-faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='relationships'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chaplaincy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fr Ian Dellinger'/><title type='text'>Towards a Chaplaincy at Edge Hill University</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Spent the day being inducted at &lt;a href="http://www.edgehill.ac.uk"&gt;Edge Hill University&lt;/a&gt; where I am looking to be part of The Chaplaincy Centre, a multi-faith chaplaincy service to students and staff. It's been a long time in the prayer and preparation. But it certainly feels as an idea whose time has really come. The university seems to have a real set of expectations on the chaplaincy centre, an idea of how it complements its existing student services, and a commitment - albeit limited - to provide accommodation, equipment and marketing support. This gives us a real platform to build something useful for the university but also creates a (healthy) pressure to have a measure of success. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Now success in this "business" is always difficult. How do you measure it and what does it look like? Is it in a large number of people contacted and/or interacted with? Any conversation - no matter how slight and banal will do! Or is it better to dwell for hours on one person - maybe at the expense of reaching more? What is best? And what does the kingdom look like in this context? This is not something I can answer after one induction day but will be reflecting on through the process.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;The one thing that is abundantly clear at this early stage is that at the heart of all of this is relationship and presence. (this is something I also learnt from Father Ian in the &lt;a href="http://www.chester.ac.uk/campus-life/religion-and-faith/chapel-chester"&gt;chaplaincy at &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Warrington&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;). Often unsaid today, relationship is the key. With Student Services, staff, students and the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;SU&lt;/span&gt;, the directorate and fellow chaplains of different faiths.  Get these right and we have it made.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;So it's a good job our God is a relational God. In the Trinity we see a mutually dependent relationship reflecting glory on each element.  That we have a model in Jesus of someone who could make strong, deep relationships with a variety of people. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;It's going to be an interesting learning experience but with the right relationships it should be strong and fulfilling.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-6497635157252993373?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/6497635157252993373/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=6497635157252993373' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6497635157252993373'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6497635157252993373'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/09/towards-chaplaincy-at-edge-hill.html' title='Towards a Chaplaincy at Edge Hill University'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-4864900289947434555</id><published>2011-09-10T11:19:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2011-09-10T12:54:06.094+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spiritual discipline'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sabbath'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rest'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='foot'/><title type='text'>The Impatient patient</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HxDz-fBysYQ/TmtIw55aW0I/AAAAAAAAADw/EKXwCC6zr1w/s1600/myfoot.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="float:right; margin:0 0 10px 10px;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 190px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HxDz-fBysYQ/TmtIw55aW0I/AAAAAAAAADw/EKXwCC6zr1w/s320/myfoot.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5650690162478963522" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Exactly a month since my last post. Shocking. And no real excuse. With a couple of half started entries in the intervening time not enough to salve my conscience. And now with my stupid foot I should have time to pause, reflect and absorb the world from the sofa.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;But that is not me.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;This should be the time for a profound reflection on finding out what is important in life, not focusing on the rush to do everything and the realisation that my injury is God's way of making me slow down. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;Except I don't feel that way. What I did was an accident of my own stupid making. I was running late and running towards the event. I slipped, feel and carried on. I did it. I am responsible.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;There are lessons about the work life balance. The model Jesus gave us of prayer and reflection - time to refresh oneself spiritually and actually. The Sabbath model is a good one - made for us to cure our relentless need to do more and pack more into our lives. That time to rest, recover and reflect is vital and should be followed. But I know I don't. I advise others to do so yet mock and scorn when that advice is given back. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;What good did my rushing around do? No good at all. I didn't get any quicker to my destination. It didn't change anything when I got there. I was not a hero for doing this. I know all that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;Where does this leave us.  I know the importance of balance (quite literally in this case) but rarely do it. So maybe a time to renew the efforts? Probably, but the trouble with taking it easy and slowing down is it is hard work.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-4864900289947434555?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/4864900289947434555/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=4864900289947434555' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/4864900289947434555'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/4864900289947434555'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/09/impatient-patient.html' title='The Impatient patient'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HxDz-fBysYQ/TmtIw55aW0I/AAAAAAAAADw/EKXwCC6zr1w/s72-c/myfoot.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-3187158201788513897</id><published>2011-08-10T13:54:00.005+01:00</published><updated>2011-08-10T14:55:35.260+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='forgiveness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Riots'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='justice'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eugene Peterson'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='cross'/><title type='text'>Father forgive them; for they know not what they do.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Reading the excellent &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_H._Peterson"&gt;Eugene Peterson's&lt;/a&gt; book "&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Word-Made-Flesh-Language-Stories/dp/0340995173/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1312981600&amp;amp;sr=8-2"&gt;The word made flesh&lt;/a&gt;" and he comments on Jesus' words on the cross as recorded in &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2023:34&amp;amp;version=NIV"&gt;Luke's Gospel&lt;/a&gt;. He challenges us to pray this prayer with Jesus but recognises the difficulties this can cause. Particularly when it comes to matters of justice. Peterson is not calling for a weak response and strongly points to a need for justice. His argument is that forgiveness, not justice should be the last word. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;He states "praying Jesus' forgiveness prayer trains our spirit in compassion, not revenge." He also says this allow the possibility that "they know not what they do" - that "they do not know that they are defiling an image of God, that they do not know they are defrauding or maiming 'one of the least of these who are members of my family' (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2025:40&amp;amp;version=NIV"&gt;Matt 25:40&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Peterson states there are systems in place to deal with justice but "however important justice is - and it is important - forgiveness is more important". He says this forgiveness is not soft sentimentality but a "white hot flame of resurrection&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt; love forged in the furnace of the cross" while pointing out that the criminal who died with Jesus on the cross had his just sentence carried out  - Jesus' prayer did not change the sentence it just trumped it with forgiveness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Is this applicable today? As we witness the rioters and looters can we say "they know not what they have done"? Many will scorn. Of course they know. They are bragging, stealing and happy to use illegal means to get what they want. True. And David Cameron is correct to say that those who have acted criminally should be dealt in that way. Yet equally, they don't know what they have done. These people seem too blind to see what they are truly doing to their friends, their family, their communities, themselves. Surely that brings us to challenge them with the prayer of forgiveness so their eyes may be opened to truly understanding the level of hurt,the depth of the pain they are involved in.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Justice must be done. There are and will be questions about how that is delivered - that is for others to ponder. But remembering that justice needs to be carried out can we, as Christ's followers, rise to the challenge of truly praying "Father forgive them; for they know not what they do."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-3187158201788513897?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/3187158201788513897/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=3187158201788513897' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3187158201788513897'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3187158201788513897'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/08/father-forgive-them-for-they-know-not.html' title='Father forgive them; for they know not what they do.'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-2448894174091120539</id><published>2011-08-09T21:30:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2011-08-09T22:17:05.387+01:00</updated><title type='text'>So where is God?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;As city communities board up and brace themselves for an uncertain night the prayers shared round the Christian communities are praying, quite rightly, for peace. But throughout the day an unanswered  question has been circulating my head. Where is God? And how do we proclaim his gospel in these seemingly bleak times.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;I am not aware of our Christian leaders speaking into the morality or spirituality of what is happening. To me, the &lt;a href="http://www.london.anglican.org/NewsShow_15202"&gt;Bishop of London's statement&lt;/a&gt; reads more like a PR statement than a piece of theological or moral reflection. The &lt;a href="http://www.southwark.anglican.org/news/pr/pr.php?id=1666"&gt;Bishop of Southwark&lt;/a&gt; seems to make a standard politician style appeal for peace and calm whilst stating the obvious values of Christianity. They feel like safe statements that the media would expect any leader to be giving. This is linked to the politicians with their statements of vigorously pursuing the criminal hooligans behind the riots. And all is fed by the chattering classes who debate whether we should be following a liberal ethic or sending in the heavy guns. All of this seems fair enough and what would be expected at this time. But I don't think it goes deep enough. It doesn't address the moral spiritual issues that have led us down this route. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;For me this lies in the area of idolatry and separation from God's truth, will and purpose for our lives. Idolatry is the key. If they are rioters with a particular political agenda then that agenda is, in part, led by the idol of money and the "right" to a better life. Which we will get no matter what. If looters then again the idol of money and goods leads the way. We have defined society by acquisition. This is the key, the goal, the aim to have more, more, more. We have a right to more and no body should get in our way. If we could all understand the true message of Jesus. That life's fulfillment is through knowing him and his love not through possessions - he commanded his followers to leave them behind. And then knowing this we need to grasp His two commandments - Love God and Love your Neighbour. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;And that would be the real challenge. For to love their neighbour the rioter/looter would not be able to loot their local shops. For it is their neighbour that is being hurt by the riots (&lt;a href="http://www.twitvid.com/4JTZH"&gt;as this lady colourfully expresses&lt;/a&gt;). But also to love their neighbour the quiet, comfortable, law abiding citizen (i.e. me) needs to understand that my consumerism, monetary idolatry adds to the melting pot.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;But where is God? Clearly I cannot presume to fully know the truth. Is he with the policeman? Politician? Rioter? Community member? Passive onlooker? ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Jesus Wept. For Jerusalem, for the world. Then he suffered for us. Is he weeping or suffering tonight?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-2448894174091120539?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/2448894174091120539/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=2448894174091120539' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2448894174091120539'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2448894174091120539'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/08/so-where-is-god.html' title='So where is God?'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-2723026344096120493</id><published>2011-07-26T18:28:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2011-07-27T20:59:03.908+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rage'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hate forgiveness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jesus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Breivik'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='love'/><title type='text'>Hanging's too good!</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;A seeming inevitable response to massacres such as in Norway is the sites that offer a vehicle for an outpouring of hatred and bile towards the perpetrator. Now, without going down a &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;wishy&lt;/span&gt; washy liberal route and being clear that what &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; " &gt;Anders &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Breivik&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt; did is inexcusable, I get depressed at this reaction.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;The basic call for revenge. The personal hatred directed at someone unknown, often in the defence or support for someone they don't know can never be positive. It worries me how passionate people get over an atrocity that does not directly impact on them. How angry people get over the death of those they would never had known if the media had not chosen to focus on this particular tragedy. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Now, some may say I am not being compassionate or empathetic. Fair enough. But that would be missing the point. Any death brings sorrow. Any massacre such as this is wrong. But to react with such venom and rage is not helpful. Venom and hate can only breed venom and hate. That surely is the lesson of conflict through the ages. Sustained on the rage of a historical memory of rage even when the initial offence is lost in the midst of time. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;It can also be misplaced. I remember a situation that involved accusations of bullying and instantly people were naming, shaming and out to get the alleged perpetrator. Wrongly. And that's just one. We all know the tabloid fueled hate campaigns against those sections of society they feel don't hit the right morals. But we can't blame one section of society. We can all get involved. Maybe because we feel impotent and powerless. But it is wrong. Wrong for individuals, wrong for society.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;I believe that when Jesus talked about forgiveness and loving enemies he was not talking about a soft capitulation but part of our freeing from the burden of rage. Without Jesus' approach we hold that within us and then it is released in more hatred and rage. And the cycle continues. Jesus in His passion was able to consume all the hatred of the world and through His &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;resurrection&lt;/span&gt; conquer and vanquish it. But we need to be prepared to take that step with him. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Despite his so called Christian Fundamentalism &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Breivik&lt;/span&gt; was not able to take that step and appeared to carry his hate and rage to devastating consequence. We must meet his hatred with love.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-2723026344096120493?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/2723026344096120493/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=2723026344096120493' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2723026344096120493'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2723026344096120493'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/07/hangings-too-good.html' title='Hanging&apos;s too good!'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-2565699655514228529</id><published>2011-07-25T18:44:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2011-07-25T19:47:59.552+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Son'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Spirit'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Planning'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Father'/><title type='text'>Laughing at plans</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;It is told many times in many ways. How do you make God laugh? Show him your plans. Very funny I'm sure but the underlying implication is that plans and strategies are of the secular world not God's world. That they are the force of human manipulation not true discernment. That those who plan go against God's will. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Phooey! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Why do we think that God does not want planning. Throughout scripture we see the evidence of more detailed thinking that I could ever muster. Think of the instructions for Noah's ark or the Ark of the Covenant. Think of the detail given to the Isaiah or Ezekiel for how they were to live out their prophetic actions. Think of the Exodus story.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;But above all think of the great plan we are happy to proclaim so often. The plan of creation and redemption that is told in the Bible. The whole story. The story that was thought about, planned, before creation with Father, Son and Spirit working together for God's world. Every time we celebrate or talk about that story we are declaring the opposite of the joke. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;God does indeed plan. So should we. Our plans need to be breathed through with the spirit but plans nonetheless. And then we will know that the way to make God laugh is to show him our lack of planning.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-2565699655514228529?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/2565699655514228529/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=2565699655514228529' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2565699655514228529'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2565699655514228529'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/07/laughing-at-plans.html' title='Laughing at plans'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-2753274399589174566</id><published>2011-07-10T12:36:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2011-07-10T14:29:01.411+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='promised land'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Exodus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jesus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='kingdom'/><title type='text'>The promised land - our destination</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Finished our latest 9:45 series of services talking about the arrival into the promised land &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus%2033:1-5&amp;amp;version=NIV"&gt;(using Exodus 33 1-5 as a base)&lt;/a&gt;- and what that means for us today.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Looking at the exodus journey in the context of 21st Century Britain and it is clear that we are all on the journey in one form or another. Like the Israelites we have a vision of a promised land. Somewhere we are not. Somewhere we would rather be. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;We have built several industries that help us escape from our reality. On a basic level that is founded round the television, music, celebrity fascination that dominates modern living. Don't get me wrong. Basic escapism is fine. But we can define our lives by something we're not rather than something we are. And for too many the escapism, the exodus journey is from something far more serious and it can have graver consequences. The need for an exodus from illness, pain, poverty, homelessness or whatever demands some form a solution.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;One solution is a vision of a promised land based on a lottery win, on an addiction, a better salary, a material solution. But this is never going to be a permanent destination on the exodus journey. Win the lottery and invariably you need more money before you can be satisfied. We turn to this, in the same way the Israelites turned to their idols when they felt abandoned by God. Because our God is not a God of the short term fix. He is a God who styed true to his promise to Moses ancestors, who has mapped the world in eons not days or months. Who will deliver us all to His kingdom. We know this through Jesus who in his outstretched arms held our failings and desires to deliver a solutiuon that lasts eternally. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;But it goes further. Jesus tells us the kingdom is near. Not in time but in presence. We can live our lives waiting for the kingdom. Or, through a close, personal relationship with Jesus we can bring the kingdom, the promised land into the world. By shining, and sharing, His love with our family, friends, neighbours, community, the world. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;There are many on a exodus journey. We all know someone. Why don't we bring them to the promised land today? Through our actions and love&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-2753274399589174566?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/2753274399589174566/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=2753274399589174566' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2753274399589174566'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2753274399589174566'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/07/promised-land-our-destination.html' title='The promised land - our destination'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-755007202727643366</id><published>2011-07-03T12:17:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2011-07-03T13:15:46.566+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='BCP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Liturgy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shakespeare'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eucharist'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Holy Communion'/><title type='text'>The problem with our traditional services..</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Many will consider me to stand against the traditions. I come from, and go to, a modern expression of worship - informal, flexible, messy and noisy. Tradition? Why bother.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;That's not true. As a Reader I was first to volunteer to lead &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_0" class="blsp-spelling-error"&gt;BCP&lt;/span&gt; Evening Prayer and I was delighted that my second time presiding was at a &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_1" class="blsp-spelling-error"&gt;BCP&lt;/span&gt; Communion. Because the tradition is not the problem. It's the way that some of us use it that is.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;There is beauty in the language of the &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_2" class="blsp-spelling-error"&gt;BCP&lt;/span&gt;. Some elements may jar with twentieth century sensibilities but there's beauty nonetheless. It has stood the church in good stead for many centuries. Poetry shines through the prose and there is a rhythmic quality that is pleasing. So what is the problem?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Delivery. Too many services based on written liturgy are delivered in such a dull way. When the prose &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_3" class="blsp-spelling-error"&gt;cries&lt;/span&gt; out to the Lord the people speak in a dull monotone. This becomes unattractive and leads to the meaning being lost. We should not allow this. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I equate it with the many performances of Shakespeare I have seen. Here is a language that many see as irrelevant to modern ears. Yet in the performance it can come alive. I remember seeing three different performances of King Lear in one summer. Each one offered a different interpretation being the play alive in different ways. So why not the liturgy?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;It's not a show or performance but it is a drama. The greatest story as they say and in the Eucharist the dramatic recreation of one of the pivotal &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_4" class="blsp-spelling-corrected"&gt;episode's&lt;/span&gt; of Jesus life and ministry. We have the &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_5" class="blsp-spelling-corrected"&gt;privilege&lt;/span&gt; and duty to enter the story, bringing so many others with us. We must not be dull, that will never work.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;But for some it goes deeper. They hold the rules, rituals and outward signs of the performance long after they have let go of the meaning. This is when it goes totally wrong, when we do things "because we do" without the thought of why is the worst place to be in. It doesn't happen everywhere but when it does then no one is served. And let's not be fooled. The modern, flexible, relaxed expressions of worship can be &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_6" class="blsp-spelling-corrected"&gt;equally&lt;/span&gt; trapped in the "because we do" mentality. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;So there is no problem with the traditional. Just the traditional done poorly. There is no problem with the modern. Just the modern done badly. As we are called to proclaim the Gospel afresh we must proclaim the liturgy afresh. And we can do that week in week out using the same words and same poetry. We simply need to remember and connect with the meaning.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-755007202727643366?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/755007202727643366/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=755007202727643366' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/755007202727643366'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/755007202727643366'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/07/problem-with-our-traditional-services.html' title='The problem with our traditional services..'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-4182773854182905269</id><published>2011-07-02T06:47:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2011-07-02T07:52:17.509+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='wedding'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='marriage'/><title type='text'>Wedding of the week</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;So it appears they're legal. Words were said in the right order, signatures on the dotted line and a &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_0" class="blsp-spelling-corrected"&gt;huge&lt;/span&gt; sigh of relief from all. What to make of it? Firstly it is a joy and delight &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_1" class="blsp-spelling-error"&gt;to&lt;/span&gt; be involved in such an important part of &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_2" class="blsp-spelling-corrected"&gt;some one's&lt;/span&gt; life and relationship. The couple were lovely. They took the ceremony seriously while still managing to share a sense of fun.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;That was a balance I wanted to strike. It is a happy day, the start of a party, but it's also the start of a commitment. A lifelong commitment which must be taken seriously. So whilst trying to keep the tone light there were elements of the service where the couple and their guests needed to hear and reflect on what they were truly doing. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;That is where a church marriage has real merit. The powerful words of the liturgy that surrounds the declaration and vows creates a framework which reminds us of the enormity of the commitment. In a time when marriage is part of the throwaway culture that is essential. Knowing you are making powerful commitments in front of an almighty God should make anyone take it seriously. Yet what is fantastic is that our awesome God is love. Jesus is love. So love surrounds us all at this time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;My marriage to Angela was a significant point on my spiritual journey to Christ. She was desperate to get married in church before God but insistent that if we were to do it I must be prepared to be saying my vows in front of a higher being. If I couldn't then the registry office was our destination. I am glad we did for the enormity and significance came through - even if my theology was confused at the time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;That is the sense we need to capture for people. Most will come for the party and celebration which is great. We need to embrace that. But we need to embrace it in a way that helps build a bridge to the love that God shows. A love that binds us in important commitments, not to enslave but to free and to give us a way to manage the slings and arrows of our lives. This is not to be a &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_3" class="blsp-spelling-corrected"&gt;killjoy&lt;/span&gt; but to look at the bigger picture of marriage and relationship beyond the wedding day. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Yet too many view weddings as something to endure. For some, there is the theological difficulties that the modern approach to weddings cause them. That is understandable. But we come back to the bridge. It crosses a divide. We need to do that and meet people halfway. For of all the mission fields the wedding is one where people actually come to us!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-4182773854182905269?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/4182773854182905269/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=4182773854182905269' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/4182773854182905269'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/4182773854182905269'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/07/wedding-of-week.html' title='Wedding of the week'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-8105620740196065862</id><published>2011-06-18T11:59:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2011-06-18T13:29:51.559+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Maundy Thursday'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Justin Welby'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bishop James'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='priest'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dean of Liverpool'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='deacon'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ordination'/><title type='text'>... yet still a Deacon</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Was reminded of this at least three times of late so it must be important.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Firstly in the marvellous symbolism of Justin, Dean of Liverpool and future Bishop of Durham acting as Deacon in the Ordination service. Like many I took this for granted - it's what they do. But for some it was initially confusing.&lt;/span&gt; Then the need to change some of my profiles to Priest! And also the memory of Maundy Thursday where we reaffirm our vows and calling.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;It is a clear reminder of the continuing humility we need if we are to truly walk in the shoes of Christ. It is too easy to live on the pedestal of self importance or to be dragged into a political world of position and privalege. If this is a true calling it is one of continued humility and service. And the status of Deacon reminds us of that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Part of the Bishop's Charge was that we as priests provide a role model for others to imitate Christ and imitate God. Remembering that we are still Deacons is one way to remember the ultimate deacon. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-8105620740196065862?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/8105620740196065862/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=8105620740196065862' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8105620740196065862'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8105620740196065862'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/06/yet-still-deacon.html' title='... yet still a Deacon'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-7375272066852335511</id><published>2011-06-16T17:23:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2011-06-16T17:43:46.791+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='priest'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ordination'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Liverpool Cathedral'/><title type='text'>and so a priest...</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Following a fantastic retreat led by the &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_0" class="blsp-spelling-corrected"&gt;Archdeacon&lt;/span&gt; of &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_1" class="blsp-spelling-error"&gt;Northolt&lt;/span&gt;, Rachel &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_2" class="blsp-spelling-error"&gt;Treweek&lt;/span&gt;, I finally became a priest last Sunday. The service at Liverpool Cathedral was as moving as last year's &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_3" class="blsp-spelling-error"&gt;deaconing&lt;/span&gt;. Again the ordination prayer accompanied by the singing of "Come Holy Spirit Come" was a spiritual highlight of the service. As someone who dislikes ceremony it was good to be genuinely moved. I can honestly say that my three major services (two ordinations, one reader licensing) have been times when I have felt the power of the spirit really moving.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;So what now?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Well the journey continues as will the &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_4" class="blsp-spelling-corrected"&gt;occasional&lt;/span&gt; randomness of this blog. And it remains Rev in Training as training is for life. Ministry will throw up new challenges and encounters to delight and dismay. I am ready for my first experience of presiding on Sunday (although the random scary dreams have also started). I had a delightful evening planning a marriage &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_5" class="blsp-spelling-corrected"&gt;thanksgiving&lt;/span&gt; service for August and the end of this month will see my first wedding. All good and all worth reflecting on....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I don't think being a priest has changed me overnight but God continues to work and he will continue to be as close as I let him as the journey (and training) continues!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-7375272066852335511?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/7375272066852335511/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=7375272066852335511' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7375272066852335511'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7375272066852335511'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/06/and-so-priest.html' title='and so a priest...'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-7906066854702134416</id><published>2011-05-30T11:34:00.006+01:00</published><updated>2011-05-30T12:22:36.618+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bishop James'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='comfirmation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Teaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='podcast'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='9.45 Service'/><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Last night and back in the preaching saddle talking at a joint service at the local Methodist/&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;URC&lt;/span&gt; church. Took &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20peter%203&amp;amp;version=NIV"&gt;1 Peter 3:13-22&lt;/a&gt; as the text but really only wanted to make two points based on verse 15 "Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;The notion of always being prepared to give an answer has been on my heart for a while. It was formed during my thinking about the teaching series in the 9:45 service. The real opportunity for bringing more people to God is in the everyday conversations we have with friends, neighbours and colleagues. But too may people don't feel confident in explaining and discussing their faith. Our duty as teachers and preachers is to help others gain that confidence so they can be a quiet army of evangelists. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I didn't focus on that part last night but basically discussed the fact that we all have a story to tell. And our story forms part of the great big story of God. For after all scripture is a collection of the stories people were prepared to tell about their own faith and part in God’s great narrative. Story works. It worked that morning at the confirmation in &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Newburgh&lt;/span&gt; where we were moved by two people’s accounts of their journey to that point. And as &lt;a href="http://www.liverpool.anglican.org/index.php?p=787"&gt;Bishop James states in his latest podcast&lt;/a&gt; the ordination of Deacons is a great evangelistic service where people on the fringe, supporting loved ones in the momentous act of ordination, can hear the story of our faith and the importance of that commitment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And we are all called to tell our story – to give the reason for the hope we have – not just through this scripture but through the challenge “do not be ashamed to confess the faith of Christ crucified” issued at our baptism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But, and this is such an important part of this verse, we must do this with gentleness and respect. Too many people seem to think that our conversations with other world view points are battlegrounds which our theology needs to win. It &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;isn&lt;/span&gt;’t and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;doesn&lt;/span&gt;’t. Bishop James stated in his Lent Lectures in 2010 that no one was argued into the Kingdom of heaven (and he may have been quoting someone else I can’t remember). This is true. But often (and unfortunately I &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;didn&lt;/span&gt;’t think of this point until after the sermon) we don’t remember this in the discussions we have within the church on matters of homosexuality or women in authority.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We live in an argumentative world. A world where a newspaper columnist is over opinionated for money and to deadline (thanks to Stewart Lee for that concept). A world where people and institutions are instantly criticised without time for a reasoned analysis of their behaviour. A world where we have managed to turn the words “with respect” into an insult. (with respect sir you are an idiot – that type of comment).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Interestingly on the way home &lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006slnx"&gt;Feedback on Radio 4 &lt;/a&gt;was discussing last week’s &lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qk11"&gt;Moral Maze&lt;/a&gt; with a producer defending the way Melanie Phillips had interrogated a guest. The defence seemed to be that argument needed to be robust to get to the nub of the issue. But the complaint appeared to be that respect was not shown. And it seems a sad state of affairs when the argument appears to be valued more than the debate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then you get to &lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b011k0xx"&gt;Louis &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Theroux&lt;/span&gt;’s Miami Mega Jails &lt;/a&gt;programme. Again respect seemed to be a big issue. But here it was definitely not matched with gentleness. Respect was earned through brutal violence between inmates. Showing people that an individual is not to be messed with. An extreme reaction to an extreme environment but it shows a side of this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now we can’t change the world but we can change ourselves. And as Christians we should be modelling a life that others want and be attracted to. This comes from the hope we have through our faith in Jesus, it is shown by us being able to give an account of how that hope works for us but can only be seen if we tell our story with gentleness and respect. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-7906066854702134416?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/7906066854702134416/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=7906066854702134416' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7906066854702134416'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7906066854702134416'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/05/last-night-and-back-in-preaching-saddle.html' title=''/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-717821998228234661</id><published>2011-05-14T13:41:00.001+01:00</published><updated>2011-05-14T13:50:13.318+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hypocrisy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jesus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='super injunctions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Media'/><title type='text'>Super injunctions and our desire to know and cover up</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Was interviewed on Radio Merseyside this week to give a “church perspective” on super injunctions, the right to privacy and what the public need to know about celebrity. Probably didn’t make a good guest as, with so many things, the topic is ambiguous. Fault lies on all sides. And the bible, and Jesus, helps us understand that fault.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I did say, as I have blogged similarly before, that we shouldn’t have our moral compass defined by who has the better lawyers and that we need to return to a form of basic principles around our standards of behaviour. This is morally messy. On the one hand there is the danger of the sin and the cover up on the other there are issues of judgement and gossip and a notion of what exactly do we need to know.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Let’s look at them both.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Firstly the cover up and standards of behaviour. I’m not a celebrity but in a small way am a public figure. And I know that comes with standards of expected behaviour – not least because of the Ordinal stating I am to set an example. And let’s face it that’s part of the rabbinic model of discipleship. I’m also very aware of teaching a message at 10:30 and undermining at coffee after the service. And this is more so when there are more people looking at you as a role model (and let’s not start on those who trade on a squeaky clean image). So we are called to live our lives with integrity – that’s not being perfect paragons of virtue – but in a manner that reflects well. So if you conduct a misdemeanour then you should be open about it (comments about my recent speeding fine are relevant – I broke the law, admitted it, paid the fine and am trying to amend behaviour!).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The use of super injunctions runs counter to this. And more importantly do damage to people. I think King David would have looked to a super injunction to cover his adultery with Bathsheba. His action was more drastic and damaging but it comes from the same place. A desire to run and hide from his actions – rather than face up and deal with what was going on. Which is what God wanted him to do. And wants us to do. It is only by confronting these matters that they are truly dealt with – and through Jesus we can do it in the knowledge of His forgiveness and love. Running may work in the short term but it just gives us the burden of hurt to carry. And that drags us down.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet, one of the reasons we may not deal with this properly and may want to run and hide is because we face the judgement of others. And this comes to the second point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In today’s society we have become far too judgemental far too quickly. Finger pointing goes on at every level directed at individuals and institutions alike. As I have said before we, the media, the politicians, society in general have determined standards and then use them against each other with alarming ease. Now we do have to have some standard but, as I have said before, I fear that a lot of the time we are more interested in having something to hold against another person – to assert our superiority or even exact financial benefit – than actually improving humanity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus warned against this. Looking to the plank in your own eye, not casting a stone, warnings against religious hypocrisy should be enough to show us the way to be. And the bible comes with plenty of warnings about gossip. This is not to say we shouldn't correct bad behaviour but we should base this on sound principles - not those invented by tabloid or celebrity lawyers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because at the heart of this, and what seems to have been forgotten, is the hurt caused to individuals caught up in broken relationships. And while society has debated the rights and wrongs of the injunctions we forget the hurt that lies underneath.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-717821998228234661?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/717821998228234661/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=717821998228234661' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/717821998228234661'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/717821998228234661'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/05/super-injunctions-and-our-desire-to.html' title='Super injunctions and our desire to know and cover up'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-3648194731181631466</id><published>2011-05-08T21:38:00.001+01:00</published><updated>2011-05-08T21:40:32.299+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ormskirk Parish Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='worship'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='9.45 Service'/><title type='text'>Getting something out of the service</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;In a mixture of the flippant and profound I commented that people like the 9:45 service because they get something out of it? This raises a few questions that many others have asked. The question Anastasia rightly asked was what do I hope they get? This, and her subsequent query a bout worship (which I will reflect on another day) get to the heart of one of the acute challenges of leading church today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The concept of “getting something out of the service” comes with the danger of church consumerism. And my comments may in part come from a background in marketing where, crudely put, a brand is trying to make you feel part of an experience, give you an identity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To a very large extent our leisure is about being sold an experience of some sort. Whether it is dining, shopping, theatre, sporting, or culture - it is all about the experience. For many, identity is formed by the brand you buy, the hobby you pursue, the team you support or the furnishings in your home. And so on. Brands are trying to get you to buy into a self image that makes them money. Want to bring about world harmony? Buy a cola drink! Want to show your style and class – buy the right car, suit, watch and you have it made.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Getting something out of the service” can speak into that consumerist culture. You get your spiritual fix, buy into a brand of church that aligns with your values, that fits your world view. But worse you create your Golden Calf religion – a God that suits you, with maybe some of the rough edges, difficulties, challenges and questions removed. A saleable, marketable, populist but ultimately unrealistic God! And that consumerist God produces consumerist services where what is more important is whether I liked the message, enjoyed the songs, felt uplifted etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet I still think that people do need to “get something from the service”, that somehow that sense of identity and experience is important and somehow we need to capture that in the framework of being authentic to God. I have blogged before about the church of the wrong reason and I see this is linked to that. It is not wrong that people are being consumerist about their religion, it’s what people do. We have to create an experience of God that is both true to the revelation of Christ and God in scripture yet is accessible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I want people to enjoy their worship experience. I disagree with the idea that you &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;shouldn't&lt;/span&gt;’t come because you want a particular hymn or song. I want people to have fun, be challenged, be inspired, be engaged with. I equate it completely to a trip to the theatre, concert, stand up comedian. The nights out I choose to spend my money on I do because I like what I get. And I would go back to them. Because I get a sense of being entertained, amused or made to feel content. It &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;doesn&lt;/span&gt;’t mean I can’t be challenged on the deep issues of life - I have had plenty of experiences when a comedian has uttered a profound truth, when a theatre performance has raised life questions. When I have got something out of that entertainment! This is what I think church should be like.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;People should get some form of a “buzz” from our services. They should be talking about them. From the songs, to the teaching to the liturgy and prayers, people should be provoked, enthused and entertained. If we approach church like this then people want to come back - Like you do to a favourite restaurant or performer. If we approach church like this, then they learn to grow in God’s love – the open armed welcoming love of Jesus. If we approach church like this then we increase the chance of people encountering the living Christ and knowing Him in our lives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For Jesus was full of life. He was for the entertainment – he told jokes and stories, he went to meals, he did all these things. People “got something” out of their encounter with Him. He changed their lives. I want everyone to have a piece of that something.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are stifled by the notion, admirable though it is, that worship is our duty. Indeed it is. But it should also be our joy. If we don’t approach church in that way (whilst still striving for the authentic) then people won’t get anything form our services, and more importantly they won’t get God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-3648194731181631466?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/3648194731181631466/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=3648194731181631466' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3648194731181631466'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3648194731181631466'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/05/getting-something-out-of-service.html' title='Getting something out of the service'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-1463196751313875181</id><published>2011-05-04T20:32:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2011-05-04T20:45:42.327+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='silence'/><title type='text'>A short reflection on continuing babble..</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Inevitably the story seems to change.&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt; He was/wasn't armed. He used a human shield, his wife attacked, he resisted, surrendered. fought back, was betrayed, supported, helped. The list is endless and the official version is criticised for being contradictory. Therefore wrong.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Now I think this is a product of not allowing the silence to happen. We rush into the babble, the need to get the story out quickly and have a media clamour to reveal the most salacious fact possible. And then argue about what is the truth. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;For me this shows the importance of “If there is no silence, our speech degenerates into babble”. Regardless of the ethics of the deed the US rushed into babbling the outcome. The media babbled its speculation. And we are all none the wiser.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;And I experience this in many facets of my life - the rush to get the information out rather than offer a considered response. I don't how to avoid this and the pressure to do this but the challenge is there.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-1463196751313875181?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/1463196751313875181/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=1463196751313875181' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/1463196751313875181'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/1463196751313875181'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/05/short-reflection-on-continuing-babble.html' title='A short reflection on continuing babble..'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-8288755309027517784</id><published>2011-05-02T21:08:00.001+01:00</published><updated>2011-05-02T21:10:31.366+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='social media'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='silence'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eugene Peterson'/><title type='text'>Why we should be silent more often</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;“If there is no silence, our speech degenerates into babble”&lt;/em&gt; Eugene Peterson.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We live in a world of noise. A world where we have more ways to make an imprint, voice an opinion and pass a comment. The media thrives on it – 24 hour news services, websites and blogs depend on it. Channel upon channel demand interaction, opinion, feedback, tweets, votes and posts. Noise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And it is noise. The events that have provided the scaffold for this bank holiday weekend have proved it. A mass of minutia over what she wore, what they said to each other, who did what and what is supposedly means. A welter of comment and reaction to the villains death – how it is seen from a political, social, ethical, moral, theological and practical standpoint.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And all of these have experts with varying degrees of knowledge, expertise and insight. All adding volume but not often giving insight. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That’s just the official channels. These events are what social media was made for. Tweets, trending topic, commenting on statuses, the jokes, the rumours, conspiracy and opinion – it’s all there. Constant analysis, constant chatter, constant noise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On one level this is great – and, while writing this, I am guilty of being part of the whole industry. But it comes with great dangers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Firstly, we have started to create a world where everyone’s opinion carries equal weight and merit. So the expert with 30 years of study can have his or her argument challenged by the man from the omnibus. Where our discernment of truth is lost in the “I saw it on the internet” debate. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly, we appear to be losing the art of reflection. Speeches are analysed and dissected as they are being delivered with parts being taken out of context and debated, debated, debated. More noise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And we are all in danger of subscribing to this, adding to the noise with our voices and half baked opinions. David Byrne once sang “when I have nothing to say, my lips are sealed. Say something once. Why say it again?” This hits at the heart of the noise. We are cluttering our airwaves with noise and distraction – it seems the more vehicles we have, the more banal our use for them – and it is a great loss for us all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the biggest loss is the loss that Peterson speaks about. The more noise we make the more we block out the voice of God. It is in the silence we listen, we hear, reflect and discern. The quicker we are to add our voice to the noise the harder we make it to listen to the one who can really help and guide.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It won’t stop me from voicing my thoughts but it does challenge me to move away from the noise and towards the still, small voice of God. But I hope I don't babble...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-8288755309027517784?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/8288755309027517784/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=8288755309027517784' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8288755309027517784'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8288755309027517784'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/05/why-we-should-be-silent-more-often.html' title='Why we should be silent more often'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-2629259256901178975</id><published>2011-05-02T12:48:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2011-05-02T12:53:36.339+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PIME'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ormskirk Parish Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='9.45 Service'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ordination'/><title type='text'>PIME Reflection</title><content type='html'>&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;As part of the preparation for Priesting we have to do a 1000 word reflection. This is mine.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;We do not stand still in ministry. Nor, for me, is there a dramatic expression of spiritual awakening. It is the process of change with the Spirit working to deepen His presence which has characterised my Deacon year. A year which emphasised the continuity of ministry from Lay Readership whilst bringing new challenges, experiences and a broadening sense of how God works in my and other people’s lives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Continuity has been expressed in the teaching and preaching ministry which I value highly. I have worked to strengthen my teaching ministry whilst helping introduce stronger teaching practices within our church. Change has come mainly through an increasing emphasis on pastoral work not least through the occasional offices of Baptism and funerals. However, time pressures restrict the amount of pastoral visits I can conduct.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The predominant reflection of the year has surrounded the practical and theological implications of offering as Non Stipendiary Minister. Practically I can be caught between two imperatives. Either at the office or within the parish I can be pulled by the demands of the other. Yet each context can be informed and inform the other, potentially strengthening both. So understanding the role and nature of parish ministry aids the way I communicate to and about parishes. Similarly my parish work is enriched through experiencing the broader perspective that being Media Manager offers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am clear that God still calls me to full time ministry. The discernment process is about when that change should happen. God calls us to follow and journey, but He also asks us to settle and be incarnate in the community we are and to show them His presence. This is balanced by the pressures on time, a sense that I may not be fulfilling the full extent of my calling and a notion that I may not be able to give my fullest to either facet of my life. I have been constantly reminded about the need to achieve many balances in my life, in work, at home, in my spiritual life and in my family and social relationships. At present I am successfully maintaining the balance but I am aware that it is not sustainable over a prolonged period of time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At present my guide is whether I truly feel that I am where God wants. I feel a strong sense that God is using me in Ormskirk and specifically within the particular (9:45) congregation I mainly minister to and it is within this context I have observed the most fruit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;During the year I have helped introduce wholesale changes to the morning worship of the 9:45 service. I am committed to offering the best possible worship within the cultural framework of the service we offer. This means the whole of the worship experience, from the attitude of our hearts to worship to the level of professionalism with which we conduct services. This is at its core missional. At a PIME session Bob Jackson commented on the primacy of good worship to help churches grow. If a church is doing its worship well then it is likely to grow. For me that includes the occasional offices as well as every Sunday. It has to be done well, with as pure a heart as possible. This is one of our prime duties, in whatever tradition we sit in, as God reminds us in scripture of his attitude to our worship offering.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So at Ormskirk we are trying to offer the best. The first stage has been to introduce a thematic style of teaching and exploring scripture. This stems from the belief that to fulfil Jesus’ great commandment we are called to start by deepening our understanding of, and love for, God. Most of our congregation lacks the confidence to talk deeply to the unchurched about their faith. We have a need to explore and teach the difficult issues and ground people in deep scriptural knowledge. And we are approaching this by using teaching themes on doctrinal or kingdom topics alternated by in depth study of particular scriptural texts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This has been challenging. Requiring series of cohesive teaching and raising the expectations surrounding its quality has enriched the study process. It has stretched me as a teacher of the faith - in the preparation, in the learning and in the delivery.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Alongside the teaching we have also been looking at the development of spirituality within the congregation. In the context of a relaxed informal all age service we need to work hard to facilitate that depth of encounter. We want to combine liturgy, music, prayer and teaching in a way that maintains the popular informal style of service yet enhances the spiritual encounter for all. We want to engage people in their quest to find God in their lives. We want to use all senses, to be creative, open to the Spirit and authentic to his truth. It is a challenging agenda and one which I am personally excited to be involved with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And once Priested I look forward to exploring how to develop the sacraments within this context. How children can be drawn into, and fully involved in the Communion story. In an evangelical tradition where the emphasis is not on the Eucharist it is interesting and important to explore how we engage with the sacrament. This will be the next stage of the continuing process of change on the journey I am on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And so the process continues. I anticipate that through ongoing ministry, reading and study I will carry on exploring how to deepen my faith, encourage others on their faith journey and make the Gospel known in fresh and exciting ways. It is tough. Living life in the balance between several commitments remains physically and mentally taxing and I need to remain alert to the danger of overdoing things and losing sight of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since the first weekend of my Ordination training I have carried King David’s words “I will not sacrifice to the LORD my God burnt offerings that cost me nothing” in my heart. Everything we do should involve a form of sacrifice for nothing equates to the sacrifice that has set us free.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-2629259256901178975?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/2629259256901178975/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=2629259256901178975' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2629259256901178975'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2629259256901178975'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/05/pime-reflection.html' title='PIME Reflection'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-1816578967148215275</id><published>2011-04-29T19:55:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-29T20:04:09.350+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Teaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ormskirk Parish Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='9.45 Service'/><title type='text'>Songs of our journey</title><content type='html'>This Sunday we are having a special Songs of Praise where we will reflect on the last few months of teaching. Below is a copy of the sheet that will help us in that process.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Songs of our journey&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In today’s service we are reflecting on the songs and stories of our journey since September. Please use this sheet to help you reflect on some of the themes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Advent -&lt;/strong&gt; Matthew 3:1-3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;In those days John the Baptist appeared in the wilderness of Judea, proclaiming, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near." This is the one of whom the prophet Isaiah spoke when he said, "The voice of one crying out in the wilderness: 'Prepare the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.'"&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Advent teaches us about the coming of our Lord. We must always be prepared for Jesus, to live the life He wants for us. We must prepare our hearts and minds to meet our risen Lord.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;James /Micah -&lt;/strong&gt; James 2:18&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;But someone will say, "You have faith and I have works." Show me your faith apart from your works, and I by my works will show you my faith.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In their different ways Micah and James remind us we must put our faith into action. How can we do that? How should we respond to and fight the poverty and injustice in the world? Can we take the Micah Challenge? How do we walk humbly with our God and be a transforming presence in the world?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Grace –&lt;/strong&gt; Ephesians 2. 8-9&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God-- not the result of works, so that no one may boast.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are not a special people, we are a saved people. It is not what we do that earns us the right to heaven; it is because of the abundant grace of God. We give thanks for this, pray that his grace, love and truth extends across the world and offer ourselves as His servants.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Living In The Kingdom&lt;/strong&gt; – Mark 1:14-16&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Now after John was arrested, Jesus came to Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God, and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God has come near; repent, and believe in the good news." As Jesus passed along the Sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and his brother Andrew casting a net into the sea--for they were fishermen.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus was a different king, a humble servant king who’s throne was the Cross and coronation was in his Crucifixion. If we believe he is king then we must be prepared to live in His Kingdom with His values. Do we want to live with today’s morals chasing wealth or status or can we live by God’s standards in His kingdom? What are we doing to bring His Kingdom on earth?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Heart Of Worship&lt;/strong&gt; - Micah 6:8&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;He has told you, O mortal, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Worship is the primary duty of the church and all Christians and we must worship with our hearts and minds. But we need to remember that worship is more than a song, it is a lifelong commitment to love, honour&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-1816578967148215275?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/1816578967148215275/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=1816578967148215275' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/1816578967148215275'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/1816578967148215275'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/songs-of-our-journey.html' title='Songs of our journey'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-4033153106609574937</id><published>2011-04-29T17:29:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-29T17:58:06.541+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Royal Wedding'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='corinthians'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowan Williams'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='love'/><title type='text'>That event today!</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I've been pretty ambivalent towards the whole thing really. I wish them well, but then I wish all couples getting married well. I certainly don't do all the media about it etc - watching the clips on the news will do me fine. But if others buy into all of that then it is fine by me.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;But...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;What's great is the potential for church weddings. Firstly by all accounts I have heard and seen, the Abbey and Archbishop put together an excellent service. What we would expect yes, but still a positive witness. Secondly, I know of so many vicars who have carried out a wedding in their local school. I did one myself and it was a brilliant experience. The kids were really excited, all dressed up, attentive and interested. The ceremony, oddly my first wedding ever but hey ho, was great. Not without it's hiccups - the bride was not overly bothered about getting married when it came to the declarations. And the whole school seemed to put their hand up to say there was a reason the two couldn't get married. But, unlike at the real thing, I was simply able to railroad all objections and cruise on. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Importantly the kids all learnt something - not just about the importance of marriage but also, thanks to the famous &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=%201%20corinthians%2013&amp;amp;version=NIV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Corinthians &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;reading I was also able to talk about the importance of love, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;particularly&lt;/span&gt; God's love for us all. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Without the over the top media attention lavished on this one couple these opportunities would not have presented themselves. So despite my general &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;ambivalence,&lt;/span&gt; the church should be really &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;grateful&lt;/span&gt; for this opportunity. Let's just hope that church weddings rise as a result - but in my case maybe without the trees.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-4033153106609574937?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/4033153106609574937/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=4033153106609574937' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/4033153106609574937'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/4033153106609574937'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/that-event-today.html' title='That event today!'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-1167678438153232092</id><published>2011-04-24T16:15:00.005+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-24T17:44:27.409+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ecclesiastes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Truth'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rob Bell'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Knowledge'/><title type='text'>Lent with Ecclesiastes (31)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Okay - once it went awry it was never going to end well. I have in part achieved my goal yet fell short (particularly at the final hurdle). And at the end I will knowingly and deliberately cheat - &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;referring&lt;/span&gt; to the final three chapters in one go. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;So should I feel a failure. It is easy to think that way. But too often we judge ourselves on the small amount we have failed to do rather than the amount we have achieved. It's true in so many situations. The known cliche of people pointing out the one error made not the vast amount of good things done is truly applicable here. For me, the fact I have failed so little is great. The aim of the exercise was to have more of a discipline of scriptural reading and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;reflection&lt;/span&gt;. Nothing academic and with no study involved. Simply a prayerful response to the text and whatever thought comes gets committed to the blog. And so it was. Nothing profound, nothing learned, maybe not anything wise. Possibly &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;repetitive&lt;/span&gt; - and it was a struggle some days to find a new approach or angle (bit like sermon writing) - but interesting to tackle scripture &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;unencumbered&lt;/span&gt; by academia and simply trying to struggle for meaning. (the picture of Jacob wrestling God sits constantly in my head ). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I will not punish myself for not completing the task and may well look at this again - albeit in not so intensive a way over the year.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Meanwhile &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes%2010%20-%2012&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;Ecclesiastes&lt;/a&gt; ends with words that summarise the whole experience of reading, blogging and trying to discern the truth in this book and the whole of scripture. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;"The &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Quester&lt;/span&gt; did his best to find the right words and write the plain truth. The words of the wise prod us to live well. They're like nails hammered home, holding life together. They are given by God, the one Shepherd. But regarding anything beyond this, dear friend, go easy. There's no end to the publishing of books, and constant study wears you out so you're no good for anything else. The last and final word is this: Fear God.Do what he tells you. And that's it. Eventually God will bring everything that we do out into the open and judge it according to its hidden intent, whether it's good or evil."&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;In a week where the Cathedral welcomed &lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/www.robbbell.com"&gt;Rob Bell&lt;/a&gt; and heard him talk about what many regard as controversial these words ring true. The last and final word is and will be God's. We can study, agonise, dispute, fall out over, agree and discern all we like but we will never have the final word. That is God's. So we can look on the world with joy or with the despair of the Ecclesiastes author. But we rest in the knowledge that God has it all in his hands and will bring it into the open. The challenging fact about many of us is we think we know the answer and the risk of the pastor and teacher is we feel that we own the definitive truth. We don't and never will. So while we should debate to help us all discern a truth the form of abuse that someone like Bell, who let's face it is more provoking us with questions than answers, is wrong. I believe in &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;approaching&lt;/span&gt; faith from the knowledge I could be wrong. I don't believe I am but I don't know, cannot know and would be wrong to pretend I do. I only have to offer my faith and belief - I don't need to offer certainty. For as Bell himself said "God has spoken, the rest is commentary".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;So let us do our best, together, to find the wise words and the right way of living. Do it in love and the knowledge of our own human weaknesses. For the final word is and will be His and His alone.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-1167678438153232092?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/1167678438153232092/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=1167678438153232092' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/1167678438153232092'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/1167678438153232092'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/lent-with-ecclesiastes-31.html' title='Lent with Ecclesiastes (31)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-8599893078834962633</id><published>2011-04-22T17:22:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-22T18:00:51.623+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Good Friday Meditations</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;I offered two meditations during our Hour by the Cross.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;The first was on Peter's Denial&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Three times Peter denied Jesus. In the courtyard, by the fire, to the slave. Three opportunities to be by His side. Three chances to declare fellowship. Three occasions to make a stand. Three times. Three opportunities. Three denials. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Then the cock crowed!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;But how many times do we deny the Lord? It may not be so stark, so dramatic - but it happens. In the moments of pressure, in the road rage, the workplace rivalry, the family dispute, the church quarrel. We deny Christ when we ignore his teachings, fail to follow His example, neglect to live in His love.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Then does the cock crow for us?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;But Peter was restored. By Jesus himself. Three times. And that is the hope and knowledge we live in. We are forgiven. We are restored. We are loved. Love wins.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Jesus before Pilate&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Jesus said "You have the authority over me only because it was given to you by God". We live today under so many authorities, so many restrictions, so many laws, so many restrictions. We both submit to authority and have authority. In the workplace, at home, in church! My clerical collar is a symbol of authority and submission. Authority to lead, preach and minister. Authority given in submission to the Bishop under the supervision of the Vicar.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Yet there is only one true authority in our lives.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;In the beginning God gave His creation to humanity. In &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%201:%2026-30&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;Genesis 1&lt;/a&gt; He gave humanity powers over the animals, fish and birds. He did this to help us share in the creation. Humanity rebelled. Israel demanded kings, God gave them kings. They rebelled. God gave authority to Jesus. He obeyed. He proved his power over creation as He stilled the storm, fed the thousands, healed the demons.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;But He reminded us where true authority lies. And at the point of His arrest, trial and death He had God's authority, God's power, God's love to overthrow the rebellion and bring us back to Him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-8599893078834962633?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/8599893078834962633/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=8599893078834962633' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8599893078834962633'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8599893078834962633'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/good-friday-meditations.html' title='Good Friday Meditations'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-7917594142414087609</id><published>2011-04-22T16:56:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-22T17:15:02.803+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Taize'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Good Friday'/><title type='text'>All you who pass this way</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;This &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Taize&lt;/span&gt; meditation was sung and played beautifully in church today as a haunting end to our Good Friday hour by the cross.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;All you who pass this way&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;All you who pass this way&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Look and see&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Is any sorrow like the sorrow,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;that afflicts me?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;All you who pass this way&lt;br /&gt;Look and see&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Women of Jerusalem&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Weep not for me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;But for yourselves&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;And for your children&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;All you who pass this way&lt;br /&gt;Look and see&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Father forgive them&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;They know not what they do&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;All you who pass this way&lt;br /&gt;Look and see&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;My God, my God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Why have you abandoned me?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;All you who pass this way&lt;br /&gt;Look and see&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Today you will be with me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;In Paradise&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;All you who pass this way&lt;br /&gt;Look and see&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;I am Thirsty&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;All you who pass this way&lt;br /&gt;Look and see&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Father into your hands&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;I commend my spirit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;All you who pass this way&lt;br /&gt;Look and see&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-7917594142414087609?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/7917594142414087609/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=7917594142414087609' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7917594142414087609'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7917594142414087609'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/all-you-who-pass-this-way.html' title='All you who pass this way'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-4011812394932742551</id><published>2011-04-19T21:28:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-19T21:54:41.763+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ecclesiastes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='suffering'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><title type='text'>Lent with Ecclesiastes (30)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Now this is more like it. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ecclesiastes%209&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Ecclesiastes 9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; and the exhortation to "drink wine with a robust heart" suits me down to the ground. Not because of my liking for a drop of red (although that helps) but because of the idea that God delights in our pleasure. Too often we are made to feel guilty if we do something that is remotely fun or entertaining - or perish the thought slightly excessive. That goes back &lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;to the thoughts I have discussed before about being overly pious or religious set against having an integrity about who you are and what you do. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;So, the music I enjoy, the books I read, the TV I watch - none of this is particularly religious or edifying. But I take pleasure in it. And I believe that God takes pleasure in my joy. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;It is also interesting to see the author's words "Sooner or later bad luck hits us all. No one can predict misfortune. Like fish caught in a cruel net or birds in a trap, So men and women are caught. By accidents evil and sudden." This is a phrase worthy of reflection. It seems on the face of it a way into the suffering question. An argument for the it happens idea that suffering is not imposed by God as a judgment or punishment. But it just happens. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Not sure if it stacks up but it is definitely worth thinking about and coming back to.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-4011812394932742551?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/4011812394932742551/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=4011812394932742551' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/4011812394932742551'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/4011812394932742551'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/lent-with-ecclesiastes-30.html' title='Lent with Ecclesiastes (30)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-8496545288968500712</id><published>2011-04-18T21:12:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-18T21:34:16.001+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ecclesiastes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Wisdom'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><title type='text'>Lent with Ecclesiastes (29)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;We seem to be revisiting the same themes. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+8&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Ecclesiastes 8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt; and we are back to talking about the fate that seems to await us all no matter what we do in between times. But what really struck me is the closing words of the chapter.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;"When I determined to load up on wisdom and examine everything taking place on earth, I realized that if you keep your eyes open day and night without even blinking, you'll still never figure out the meaning of what God is doing on this earth. Search as hard as you like, you're not going to make sense of it. No matter how smart you are, you won't get to the bottom of it."&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;It strikes me that the more I study, reflect and learn the less I know. Yet the more I see people who are &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;obsessed&lt;/span&gt; with the pursuit of a pure interpretation of who God is and what he is about. And there's almost a sense of people looking down on you and saying you have an immature, unreasoned faith if you haven't intellectualised your belief system. And how we fall out in the pursuit of the truth. Bishop James in his 2010 Lent lectures stated that no one was argued into the Kingdom. Jesus tended to offer simple stories to explain the faith showing people by love what was important. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Yet we tend to have too many people looking at a point scoring theology where they think they are they only ones who understand the faith, the human condition and the mystery of God. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Maybe we all need to remember that no matter how smart we are we will never get to the bottom of this. So why try?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-8496545288968500712?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/8496545288968500712/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=8496545288968500712' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8496545288968500712'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8496545288968500712'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/lent-with-ecclesiastes-29_18.html' title='Lent with Ecclesiastes (29)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-6293630210124916182</id><published>2011-04-17T15:56:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-17T19:26:18.060+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ecclesiastes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><title type='text'>Lent with Ecclesiastes (29)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;It reminds me of a funeral I was told about. &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+7&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;Ecclesiastes 7&lt;/a&gt; starts with the phrase "A good reputation is better than a fat bank account. Your death date tells more than your birth date." and talks about your funeral. I remember someone saying that you can, in part, recognise your worth by your funeral. I suppose it's the theme explored by many writers through the ages - not least Scrooge. And it is certainly a theme picked up by Jesus in his barns' parable. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;We know it's true but we do the opposite. I have worked with many people who proclaimed 'I am not here to be popular but to do a job'. Now we shouldn't court popularity but the idea that the only way to be a boss is to tread on other's toes making them, and their hopes, dreams and ambitions, your ladder to success.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Again, running through this passage, as through much of this book, as through much of life, is a need for balance. I love the phrase "On a good day, enjoy yourself; On a bad day, examine your conscience. God arranges for both kinds of days So that we won't take anything for granted." I think that sums up my life but not my attitude to it. On a good day I feel I can conquer the world, I am all the success cliches a footballer could mention. And then some. When it is bad. Well I could give the author a run for his money in howling at God. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;But what I don't do is keep them in balance and not take either for granted. Which is my lesson and to my detriment I don't learn it.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;And that sense of balance continues in the final segment. In all issues there are two sides and I too easily rush in from one perspective. This can often cause more problems than it solves. But is probably the natural reaction of many. We seem to thrive on oppositionalism on judging the book, speech, comment, opinion before it is even uttered. Surely we need to take more time to see the whole picture - as the author urges us.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;But hey ho - we live in a perfect creation but as the author says "we're the ones who made a mess of things". Depressing end. If it were the end....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-6293630210124916182?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/6293630210124916182/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=6293630210124916182' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6293630210124916182'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6293630210124916182'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/lent-with-ecclesiastes-29.html' title='Lent with Ecclesiastes (29)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-1076472253365408355</id><published>2011-04-17T07:02:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-17T15:34:23.434+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mark Thomas'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Comedy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Action'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preaching'/><title type='text'>Those that do...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I am always humbled by the people I am not. Went to see the brilliant &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.markthomasinfo.com/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Mark Thomas&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt; last night as he tours his Extreme Rambling show. Over a couple of hours he enthrals, educates and entertains with his exploits walking the length of the wall around the West Bank in Israel. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;(preachers take note, without gimmick or notes Mark delivers a "sermon" that makes you think, that challenges and inspires - oh to get that in our churches!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;On his home page he eloquently describes why he took the journey and what he hoped to achieve but the evening went far deeper. He went into the politics of the situation but more importantly described how it affects the people, on both sides of the wall, both sides of the divide. He shows, as his shows always do, the humanity behind the situation and, despite proclaiming his atheism and rightly denouncing the religious politics that pervades this conflict. I cannot do justice to this and could not recommend Mark's book &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Extreme-Rambling-Israel%C2%92s-Separation-Barrier/dp/0091927803/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1303025204&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt;Extreme Rambling: Walking Israel's Barrier for Fun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; enough.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;However, my main thought is that Mark's integrity comes from him having been there and lived his routine. I worry that I am more and more becoming the Jimmy Porter figure, ranting at the ills of the world from the sidelines while finding all reasons and excuses not to put in the effort to change it. I go back to previous statements and sermons where I commented on Jesus and the fact that His actions made him truly beautiful. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Maybe it's time to stop finding excuses...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-1076472253365408355?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/1076472253365408355/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=1076472253365408355' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/1076472253365408355'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/1076472253365408355'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/those-that-do.html' title='Those that do...'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-339230691548797529</id><published>2011-04-16T16:15:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-16T16:31:15.248+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ecclesiastes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><title type='text'>Lent with Ecclesiastes (28)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;And so the miserable attitude kicks back in again. &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ecclesiastes%206&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;Ecclesiastes 6&lt;/a&gt; sees the author taking the bleak view again. Which is great. We're back to the what's the point? It all gets you nowhere and we all end up in the same place analysis. I was looking for some faith and then I found some faith. And heaven knows I'm miserable now.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I relate to the despair but not necessarily the solution. Again I see the pit the author is crying to God from, the sentiment being uttered feels real but not comfortably right. I love the phrase "we work to feed our appetites, meanwhile our souls go hungry." So true. So materialistic. So what's the alternative.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Again. The author seems to be pointing to a selfish enjoyment of life. Making hay in the shining sun because we will all end up with nothing. &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Well&lt;/span&gt; for me the move to enjoy is to recall that we are to be living a God given life and that is something to enjoy. And our relationship with him. And His Son.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;This points to someone who is crying out to God without the words that Jesus said. Why worry about tomorrow as today has enough problems to be dealing with. We can plot and plan to try and stake our claim for a big place in this world. Or we can simply strive to get close to the Creator and enjoy what we have the best way we can.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I know what I choose.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-339230691548797529?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/339230691548797529/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=339230691548797529' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/339230691548797529'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/339230691548797529'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/lent-with-ecclesiastes-28.html' title='Lent with Ecclesiastes (28)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-7173898707506733972</id><published>2011-04-15T16:37:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-15T17:00:06.141+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ecclesiastes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><title type='text'>Lent with Ecclesiastes (27)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;So picking up from before and taking this to 40 entries of struggle before evaluating what I have (or haven't) achieved - with apologies to the excellent bible teacher from Spring Harvest &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Skegness&lt;/span&gt;. But for now. &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ecclesiates%205&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Ecclesiastes&lt;/span&gt; 5&lt;/a&gt; (part 2) sees the writer again lamenting the exploitation and injustice faced by the poor. But saying there is nothing we can do about it! Which flies in the face of what we think should be said. But is honest. We are overwhelmed by the feeling that we should solve the problems of the world. And we get bombarded by every good cause possible. But we can't do &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;everything&lt;/span&gt;. It is worse than the Forth &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Bridge&lt;/span&gt; Challenge. The poor we will always have and they get more and more and the causes we are asked to support get greater and greater.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;So....&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;Why bother?&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Well clearly that is a poor response and we cant use lines from this passage to justify inaction. But, we must also have a perspective that says we can't, and nor are we called, to do everything. Jesus didn't heal the world, didn't travel the world. He just worked in a small corner. We should do our bit, play our part. But let others take responsibility for the rest. There is plenty of grief and plenty of comforters to go round.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Have touched on most of the rest in previous posts. But it just reiterates for me that we do have to &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;make&lt;/span&gt; the best of what God gives us. And those who seem to me to have the most fulfilling lives are those who do just that. I worry too much about money, status, job security and the things that don't matter. And this can drag me down. I don't read the words "have a good time" as eat,drink and be merry (and stuff others). I do see it as our God given duty and joy to live fully with him in His Kingdom. This world and the next.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-7173898707506733972?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/7173898707506733972/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=7173898707506733972' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7173898707506733972'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7173898707506733972'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/lent-with-ecclesiastes-27.html' title='Lent with Ecclesiastes (27)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-8330678040279948046</id><published>2011-04-14T21:01:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-14T21:03:51.672+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Back from Spring Harvest</title><content type='html'>And I blame it for a lack of posting over the last week. Will get back to is tomorrow. Suffice to say a combination of excellent teaching and invigorating worship has put me back on track. For a couple of days. Ooo and I am reading Eugene Peterson and Rob Bell which can't be bad.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-8330678040279948046?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/8330678040279948046/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=8330678040279948046' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8330678040279948046'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8330678040279948046'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/back-from-spring-harvest.html' title='Back from Spring Harvest'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-6267986550256326688</id><published>2011-04-06T20:40:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-06T21:26:35.774+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fear of God'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ecclesiastes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><title type='text'>Lent with Ecclesiastes (26)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;God's in charge not you. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ecclesiastes%205&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Ecclesiates&lt;/span&gt; 5 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;and The Message translation starts with words that should be imprinted on our hearts but too often we forget. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;It's a serious reminder to be careful before God. Again an important reminder. In a world, even a Christian world where we frame a God that we can easily handle. The OT world knew the God they were dealing with and showed all due respect. We sometimes cop out and lazily rely on God's forgiveness to get us through.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;It comes back to my notion of spiritual integrity. Instead of the bogus high standards of behaviour that we fail to attain we need to be truly humble disciples. The phrase that strikes is "enter to learn", we should come before God to learn His will and ways - not to prattle on with our own meaningless understanding of what He wants. If remember He is in control, He is in charge then it should put our own ego and worldly nonsense into proper perspective. That's not to forget He loves and accepts us for who we are - just a reminder for us not to get carried away with our own egos.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Part 2 tomorrow&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-6267986550256326688?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/6267986550256326688/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=6267986550256326688' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6267986550256326688'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6267986550256326688'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/lent-with-ecclesiastes-26.html' title='Lent with Ecclesiastes (26)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-860427126693017820</id><published>2011-04-05T20:16:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-05T20:30:00.746+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='work life balance'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ecclesiastes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='work'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><title type='text'>Lent with Ecclesiastes (25)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Continuing from yesterday. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ecclessiastes%204&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Ecclesiastes 4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt; continues with a returning theme, seemingly the folly of doing or trying anything. "All the work and ambition motivated by envy" contrasted with "The fool sits back and takes it easy, His sloth is slow suicide. One handful of peaceful repose is better than two fistfuls of worried work".&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Oddly, while many might see pointlessness I see comfort. The issue of workaholism appears to be firmly tackled here. I have seen, been part of the "work and ambition motivated by envy" culture. My head is still in that place sometimes. I will mentally reject an idea or suggestion proffered by another because I am envious of the attention they may receive or the kudos it could bring. I see someone deliver a great service and offer praise and congratulations through gritted teeth. Not because I don't mean that praise but because within me there is envy. It doesn't occur all the time but it is an honest, open opinion and we need to confront the motivations and desires of our heart. Which is what the author does so well here.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Thus we look at the "peaceful repose". The notion that it is better to not work and not be worried than to drive ourselves into the grave. Now we all know the person or people that this applies to. The ones that work too hard and do too much. Yet we also know that this is often the splinter in our own eye, the drive that pushes ourselves too hard, the stress waiting to happen. British culture seems to regard effort and endurance as being virtues. I have worked so many hours without break etc etc. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Yet clearly God judges success in a differnet way and we would all do well to remember this. Me included.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-860427126693017820?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/860427126693017820/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=860427126693017820' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/860427126693017820'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/860427126693017820'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/lent-with-ecclesiastes-25.html' title='Lent with Ecclesiastes (25)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-3097292317005200009</id><published>2011-04-04T21:19:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-04T21:52:13.482+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='God on Trial'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ecclesiastes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><title type='text'>Lent with Ecclesiastes (24)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Now this is grim. &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ecclesiastes%204&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;Ecclesiastes 4&lt;/a&gt; and it throws up some really difficult challenges. Mostly around the real nihilism of the author's comments about the outrageous violence he witnesses. Now I suppose the reader's reaction to this depends on where you feel God is in the text. Is the author saying there is no God and hence despair or is there something more subtle going on.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Let's be honest. Who hasn't at some point, in some pit of despair looked at the world with the same sentiment as the author? It is an eloquent expression of that despair that offers no one to comfort those in need. Now clearly, for me, there is someone that offers comfort. But I can see how at times it can feel there is no one - that we are on our own with no support.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I remember watching part of &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2008/aug/19/drama.religion"&gt;"God on Trial" the Frank &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Cottrell&lt;/span&gt; Boyce&lt;/a&gt; drama where Auschwitz prisoners did just that, put God on Trial. What struck me was in the most desperate of places, with a verdict that God was guilty and being led to the Chamber the answer was prayer. And that is the fascinating dilemma that this godless vision produces, With our backs against the wall in a desperate place we can intellectually reject His presence whilst instinctively praying to Him. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;There's more to the passage and I will return to it tomorrow.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-3097292317005200009?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/3097292317005200009/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=3097292317005200009' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3097292317005200009'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3097292317005200009'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/lent-with-ecclesiastes-24.html' title='Lent with Ecclesiastes (24)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-3675856362710933240</id><published>2011-04-03T16:40:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-03T17:51:29.326+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='just war'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ecclesiastes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><title type='text'>Lent with Eclessiastes (23)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;It's all in the timing! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=eclessiastes%203&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Eclessiastes 3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt; and you hit the famous passage about having a time for everything etc. And it's not a good passage for a pacifist leaning Christian - a time to kill! a time for war!. Does this mean it is condoning these acts and by that give justification to Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan? Does it bear out what an army commentator said on the Libyan crisis that the RAF are dropping bombs to save lives? That Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the least of all possible evils? It could also help justify why Libya and not Ivory Coast, Iraq and not Iran, Afghanistan not North Korea!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I'm not sure.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;It could be taken as that and although I'm not an expert in the Just War theory this could be cited for this in my book. Yet I think it mainly points up the fact that God recognises that this side of the Kingdom coming we live in a morally ambiguous complex world. We can look to scripture for guidance - and don't get me wrong it gives great guidance - but not for black and white irrefutable answers to every question. It points to what we are often told in the rev business that context is everything. In some contexts killing is right (maybe to stop the unnecessary prolonging of suffering); war is right (fight a small battle to prevent a larger war). Certainly for each pair of statements I can start to see a reasoning for when and why I should and could opt for a particular option at a particular time.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;But then the risk.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;If the answer lies in the context then we choose the context and potentially frame what "God" wants through the lens of our own desires and ambitions. This gives us far too much power. But this is the creation risk that God took. He gave our freedom and gave us the opportunity to use it badly. We have the guidance and the model of Jesus but what we do is up to us. This is why we need the totality of prayer, study, spirit, worship and thought. There is a time when any option is right. We have to decide when that time is.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Resolve that one and then you're right back into the nothing is worth it argument we have already discussed. But for me what continues to shine strongly through is how little we should try and understand this God. Great is the mystery of God and so much better when we don't try and understand. The familiarity of modern celebrity has destroyed our relationship with them. We cannot create a mystery round so many of them when we know almost all of their bodily functionings. We might not get to the same level with God but why do we try. Let the mystery be as Iris Dement once sang! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Again I am not sure of the writer's conclusion - let's just have a good time - but his analysis is fair comment. There is no use in worrying about the way of God and the world. God is who he is - isn't that Yahweh? - and He is unchanging and magnificent. In the nicest possible way deal with it. We all start and end in the same way and the treasures we need for our lives are the spiritual ones that only a relationship with God can offer.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;So the author says have a good time. I think have a God time. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-3675856362710933240?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/3675856362710933240/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=3675856362710933240' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3675856362710933240'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3675856362710933240'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/lent-with-eclessiastes-23.html' title='Lent with Eclessiastes (23)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-4364390187369264203</id><published>2011-04-02T19:30:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-02T20:14:30.100+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='NSM'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Leadership'/><title type='text'>Stagnating as an NSM</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;It's reported in the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/content.asp?id=110008"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Church Times&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt; that &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;SSMs&lt;/span&gt; (or in my case &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;NSM&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;presumably&lt;/span&gt;) are left to stagnate. I don't feel it. A national survey of 900 ministers appears to portray a bleak picture. Which is a shame because if the church is going to flourish - with the well known downturn in the full timers coming through the system - we need to have a well motivated army of self supporting or non stipendiaries.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;The Church Times reports:-&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;"Dr Morgan said that the research showed “the lack of any policy” to&amp;shy;wards &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;SSMs&lt;/span&gt;, and the “often re&amp;shy;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;peated&lt;/span&gt; comment by respondents that they feel ignored, overlooked, or under-used suggests strongly that this picture is not one of stability, but one of stagnation”. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;There is an impression, she said, “that most &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;SSMs&lt;/span&gt; are parked some&amp;shy;where, and left”, and just ten per cent of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;SSMs&lt;/span&gt; reported that changes in ministry had come from a positive lead somewhere else in the Church. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;Many &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;SSMs&lt;/span&gt; also reported poor treatment by their incumbents; and one commented that they felt “paid clergy do not take &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;SSMs&lt;/span&gt; seriously, and view us as amateurs not to be trusted.”&lt;/em&gt; I don't experience that and I think there may be two things going on here. Firstly, I know that I have always had a good relationship with my incumbent. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;First when I was Reader and now as &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;NSM&lt;/span&gt; I have felt able to develop things and encouraged in that way. Maybe I am fortunate but I take it as second nature that I am just as much a valid leader as anyone else. I know others may have different and difficult relationships but... &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;And here's the rub. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;When I read something like this I do wonder how much people are taking responsibility for their own ministries. It is easy to say we need someone to take us seriously, we need a policy to look after us but, to ape a phrase, some have leadership thrust upon them others should be able to grasp leadership and shake the system till it notices. We have too many people sitting waiting for something to happen to them and someone to do it. If we are, as a group, to be fulfilled then we are the ones who can do it. If we don't then we are surely just as responsible for our own stagnation. And surely if we are needed more then now is the time to do it. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;Cometh&lt;/span&gt; the hour &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;cometh&lt;/span&gt; the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;NSM&lt;/span&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-4364390187369264203?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/4364390187369264203/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=4364390187369264203' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/4364390187369264203'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/4364390187369264203'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/stagnating-as-nsm.html' title='Stagnating as an NSM'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-8637476236221055230</id><published>2011-04-02T16:41:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-02T19:28:33.986+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ecclesiastes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fatalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Prodigal'/><title type='text'>Lent with Ecclesiatses (23)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;"I hate life". &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ecclesiastes%202&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;Ecclesiastes 2&lt;/a&gt; and it feels like the gloomy teenager has stomped upstairs, reverberations of a slammed door echoing in the ear.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;This passage speaks to me about my life before Jesus. It talks about the rat race, the social climber, the career slave, the anything to get to the top person. It also talks about the folly of pursuing fame and fortune for it is indeed nothing. And that I think is true.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;When I started my career I wanted a big house, money and to be the boss. I was determined to climb the ladder and would seek promotion where necessary. I wasn't very good at it. I probably wasn't hungry enough for it. Certainly not enough to make the life sacrifices to achieve it. And I remember a colleague saying that he was just as much in debt after a pay rise as all he had done was increase his expenditure. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;This passage speaks of the folly of chasing material goods and pursuing cheap pleasure. Consuming not giving. Partying not worshipping. Acquiring not serving. Jesus warns of this and shows the other way. We cannot, should not, must not become slaves to this way of life. Because all it gives is temporary. A pleasure that you can suck the marrow out of and leave with a dry emptiness.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;The bleakness in this passage offers the most optimism. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;We all die. Whether rich or poor, famous or unknown, success or failure, we all die. So what's the point? Pessimism and fatalism ahoy. Unless we look towards God and the life he wants for us. Live as his servants, let him be our masters. Truly, truly, truly, in our hearts and every fibre of our beings live to serve and please him.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I would like to think that maxim is adopted by all in the church but sadly, from what I've seem, it doesn't always occur. There are too many career obsessed individuals in church circles. People who I would wonder at their witness and understanding of the Gospel that I know and recognise. That seems a shame but not for me to change. The spirit can do that. I can only change my own attitude and witness to God. And for me that involves accumulating his love rather than mammon's grace and favour.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Now the last statement causes me some consternation "The best you can do with your life is have a good time and get by the best you can. The way I see it, that's it—divine fate. Whether we feast or fast, it's up to God." I'm not sure if I am that fatalistic. Or maybe if I am my response to that fatalism is not the same as the author's. One of my pet theories in life is you can't change the situation you can merely change your response to it. So knowing that you may not get riches after a life of hard labour is one thing. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;How do you respond to that knowledge? By living it up or living with Jesus?&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;God knows our lives. The hairs on our heads and the measuring out of the days of our lives testify to that. But this version of divine fate seems to say lets work against God - have a good time and at least control what you know you control. Beyond that - who cares. A philosophy no doubt spoken about by some atheistic friends of mine. Yet I would say that we should get by as best we can by getting a close to Jesus and the model he taught us. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;For God may have a plan for us but he entrusts that to us and wants us to make our own choices. And if we want &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;true&lt;/span&gt; riches then the most fulfilling &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;route is the one Jesus taught us.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;But if we stray. Well the prodigal who went off for a life very similar to the one described shows us how God will welcome us back into his loving arms. And that's one of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;the&lt;/span&gt; greatest pieces of knowledge I have!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-8637476236221055230?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/8637476236221055230/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=8637476236221055230' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8637476236221055230'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8637476236221055230'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/lent-with-ecclesiatses-23.html' title='Lent with Ecclesiatses (23)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-2232370089666143902</id><published>2011-04-02T08:04:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-02T08:24:02.900+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ecclesiastes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Wisdom'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Knowledge'/><title type='text'>Lent with Ecclesiastes (22) Part 2</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Never really studied this book of wisdom but clearly its beautiful text is so inspiring. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+1&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Ecclesiastes 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt; is a sharp reminder to us all (I'm talking here to me alone!) about how our efforts are next to nothing when compared with God. It is easy to get a bit depressed about the words. It doesn't matter what you do - nobody will remember or thank you for your efforts. It doesn't matter what you try - the world will keep turning regardless. It can almost feel as if this is a scripture written by an Emo/Goth community of nihilists. Life is boring and pointless and then you die!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;And as for knowledge and wisdom - that is like spitting in the wind! I love the phrase "Much learning earns you much trouble. The more you know, the more you hurt." It seems so prosaic and true. The more I have learnt the more confusing it all seems. The more I study the more I actually risk the true knowledge and essence of God being further away. Not closer. Great is the mystery of faith seems such a glib answer to the world's problems but sometimes we need to cling onto that. Is is not the lesson of Babel - the closer we get to God's knowledge, or at least attempting to emulate His wisdom, the deeper in trouble we are. Where does the accumulated knowledge of the 21st Century actually get us - except into a world of division, confusion and competition? God calls us to be children in His kingdom - that innocent appreciation of the young that seeks to wonder not to explain. To delight not understand.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Maybe I am being bleak. Or maybe on our quest (and I love Peterson's use of the word Questor) we need to seek love more than knowledge.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-2232370089666143902?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/2232370089666143902/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=2232370089666143902' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2232370089666143902'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2232370089666143902'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/lent-with-ecclesiastes-22-part-2.html' title='Lent with Ecclesiastes (22) Part 2'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-5611070145450618128</id><published>2011-04-01T21:41:00.001+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-01T21:43:11.283+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Lent with Ecclesiastes (22)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Two books down and lent remorselessly kicks on. Going to take a break tonight and carry onto Ecclesiates tomorrow.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;And why not&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-5611070145450618128?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/5611070145450618128/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=5611070145450618128' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5611070145450618128'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5611070145450618128'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/04/lent-with-ecclesiastes-22.html' title='Lent with Ecclesiastes (22)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-8268572765232883511</id><published>2011-03-31T20:12:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2011-03-31T20:43:36.809+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Leadership'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nehemiah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><title type='text'>Lent with Nehemiah (22)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Turn your back for one minute and then what happens. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=nehemiah%2013&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Nehemiah 13&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; and it seems to all fall apart while he's away. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;This really is the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;dilemma&lt;/span&gt; of leadership writ large. How hard a hand on the tiller do you need? How much control do you give to others and when do you let them go. I have experienced a range of types. The control freak, the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;laissez&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;faire&lt;/span&gt; type, the encourager, the mentor. And each has a strength as well as a weakness. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;One of my previous bosses was fond of saying the secret of good management is knowing when to put your foot on the accelerator. And when to let go. Add to this the old maxim of you have to tell people something 12 times for it to sink in and you seem to capture the dynamic of this &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;passage&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;It seems here that without the leader the vision goes to pot and decay and to a certain extent disaster strikes. And it takes determined work to bring it back into focus. This is why we need leaders and this is what leaders are called to do. Firstly define the path you want others to take and then keep everyone on that path. The trick is how to do it without needing to be physically present.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;It is a risk. It seems as humans we are incapable of staying on the straight and narrow without continual prodding. God knows this. It is the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;continual&lt;/span&gt; story of the Israelite community. Yet God is prepared to take the biggest risk of all. To gamble his whole creation on these inherent wanderers. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;So we need our leaders. Our directors on the spiritual path through life guiding our relationship with God. How we do this is up to us but staying on the path is the single most important duty we all have.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-8268572765232883511?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/8268572765232883511/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=8268572765232883511' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8268572765232883511'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8268572765232883511'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/lent-with-nehemiah-22.html' title='Lent with Nehemiah (22)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-8772016928613211425</id><published>2011-03-30T20:40:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2011-03-30T21:21:59.912+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nehemiah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='worship'/><title type='text'>Lent with Nehemiah (21)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Who will rid me of these infernal lists. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=nehemiah%2012&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Nehemiah 12&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; and we get details of all the Priests and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Levites&lt;/span&gt; and I mentally switch off again.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;But again it's the passion, exuberance and dedication of the worship described in the second half of the chapter that gets me. I want to worship like that. I want to have that passion, to show that passion, to be a witness to that. When is it that our churches can be described as being heard "far and wide"? When do we offer the terrace like passion of a football afternoon. When do we express the joy that knowing and loving Jesus calls us to.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;The other lesson is the worship is well organised, resourced and cared for. And that is another model we can aspire to. I certainly think that whatever the tradition and whatever the worship style only the best should do for God. Sometimes we have forgotten what the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;ancient&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Israelites&lt;/span&gt; instinctively knew.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-8772016928613211425?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/8772016928613211425/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=8772016928613211425' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8772016928613211425'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8772016928613211425'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/lent-with-nehemiah-21.html' title='Lent with Nehemiah (21)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-2716290321001883936</id><published>2011-03-29T22:11:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2011-03-29T22:28:02.276+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Passion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nehemiah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jesus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Journeying'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='SNWTP'/><title type='text'>Lent with Nehemiah (20)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;More lists, I've said all I can about lists! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Nehemiah+11&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Nehemiah 11&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; and possibly my shortest reflection yet. Having said all I can about lists then my only reflection is around an interesting phrase "The people applauded those who voluntarily offered to live in Jerusalem."&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;When on the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;SNWTP&lt;/span&gt; course we had an issue with some double booking which meant a few of us would have to live away form the community in a &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;separate&lt;/span&gt; hotel. The course asked for volunteers or they would draw lots. I volunteered and stayed in a hotel which was not, in any way shape or form luxury. But it was bearable. However to me it was made more bearable because I hadn't been forced there by chance or compulsion. I volunteered, accepted my fate and felt better for it.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;In many situations we can't change what happens or is happening to us. We can only change the way we feel about it.And of course with our faith we have God to help us change the way we feel about the situation. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;That is something important about Lent and about the passion. Jesus' journey to the cross was not the most favourable journey. It's outcome could seem to many disastrous. But Jesus accepted it, volunteered for it. And God supported him. And he asked for that support.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;We look to Jesus as our model. Why not start here!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-2716290321001883936?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/2716290321001883936/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=2716290321001883936' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2716290321001883936'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2716290321001883936'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/lent-with-nehemiah-20.html' title='Lent with Nehemiah (20)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-4419438912212367628</id><published>2011-03-28T22:17:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2011-03-28T22:42:04.595+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='crucifixion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='REM'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nehemiah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><title type='text'>Lent with Nehemiah (19)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;At some point it always comes to this. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=nehemiah%2010&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Nehemiah 10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt; and it's time to put your name to it and commit.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Simple reflection tonight. In this world of competing pressures and declining commitment the church, the temple of God, needs people to sign up and commit. The names of those who committed, and the actions they were committed to are recorded here. It's important. It's about accountability, about saying your serious, about putting faith into action.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;There was a cartoon in the Church Times recently which stated that ideas come from &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;everywhere&lt;/span&gt; but &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;implementation&lt;/span&gt; is down to the vicar. This must change. This world is too full of people with bright ideas but not enough who are prepared to do something about it. It pervades all sections of society and we are all poorer as a result. For I believe it has led us to the point where we are all far more critical. Of everything but particularly of officialdom. They should do something about it! Maybe they should, but why not you? Or me?&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;A lesser known, but favourite of mine, latter day REM song called Falls to Climb has a line which says it for me. "My actions make me beautiful". I hear the song as a song of the crucifixion, for Jesus, although of fine words, was made beautiful through his action of death and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;resurrection&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-4419438912212367628?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/4419438912212367628/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=4419438912212367628' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/4419438912212367628'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/4419438912212367628'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/lent-with-nehemiah-19.html' title='Lent with Nehemiah (19)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-6280820544372778799</id><published>2011-03-27T15:54:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2011-03-27T17:40:47.304+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nehemiah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='story'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Praise'/><title type='text'>Lent with Nehemiah (18)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;With trouble around, the people gather for prayer. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=nehemiah%209&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Nehemiah 9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt; and it appears the backs are against the wall so when better than to gather in community for prayer and fasting?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;We don't often do this as a community. Not in my church anyway. When disaster strikes, or is threatened, we don't come before our God as community to pray. Others may and we should. But we don't. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;This provides a model and takes us back to some fundamentals when it comes to our relationship with God. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Firstly, we must always remember to praise and worship him. How easy it is to forget. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Secondly, we must tell and retell His story. This again reminds us of God's great deeds (as the psalms often do) and we need to keep that story alive. As we know so many people are losing or not hearing the details of what God and Jesus have done for us. Yet, as I'm sure someone once said, it is the greatest story. Ever. So why not keep telling and retelling. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Thirdly, we must remind ourselves of God's unchanging and steadfast love. Almost goes without saying but we often forget.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;And finally, for me, is the statement "You are not to blame for all that has come down on us". It's slipped in the middle of the reading yet it is that big question that we all face. Japan, New Zealand, Libya etc - is God to blame? Could he prevent these things and does he not care. Others far more erudite are better qualified to give the academic answer. But for me. My faith says He is not the cause, He is the solution. He does not make our pain He walks with us in it. He hears our cry and, as scripture tells us, will wipe away our tears.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-6280820544372778799?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/6280820544372778799/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=6280820544372778799' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6280820544372778799'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6280820544372778799'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/lent-with-nehemiah-18.html' title='Lent with Nehemiah (18)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-2452576719294400360</id><published>2011-03-26T17:17:00.004Z</published><updated>2011-03-27T15:54:20.767+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='free thinkers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nehemiah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><title type='text'>Lent with Nehemiah (18)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;The word is preached and clamoured for. &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=nehemiah%208&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;Nehemiah 8&lt;/a&gt; and it is nice, in these Gospel jaded times, to see the people demand to hear God's word. And to act on it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I believe in the ministry of the Word. The solid exploration of what God is saying to us in scripture and how we can apply biblical ethics to our &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;everydays&lt;/span&gt;. But not preaching. It is solid teaching that we need. Confronting people with the challenge that the bible offers our lives and helping them work out the answer that suits. That philosophy lies at the core of what I am trying to do. It was what I aimed to achieve with my sermon(talk?) last week. Throw up the dilemma and challenge that following God and living by biblical ethics and let others work out how they would go with it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;In fact I often feel that my talking is one long attempt to work it out for myself. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I do think that too often churches and church leaders having been trying to tell people what to think. That's certainly the perception (&lt;a href="http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/free-thinkers-allowed.html"&gt;free thinkers allowed&lt;/a&gt;) that many have. I want people to freely think their way into the Kingdom. And I think that's what Jesus wanted as well.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-2452576719294400360?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/2452576719294400360/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=2452576719294400360' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2452576719294400360'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2452576719294400360'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/lent-with-nehemiah.html' title='Lent with Nehemiah (18)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-5672763069298856492</id><published>2011-03-25T19:23:00.004Z</published><updated>2011-03-25T19:55:11.665Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Leadership'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rob Bell'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nehemiah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><title type='text'>Lent with Nehemiah (17)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Short post tonight because a) it's Friday and b) because I would be repeating myself. Which is not good.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=nehemiah%207&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Nehemiah 7 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;and we get another list which brings to mind some of the points I made at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/lent-with-ezra-day-two.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Ezra 2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt; and &lt;a href="http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/ezra-day-8.html"&gt;Ezra 8&lt;/a&gt;. But we do get another facet of leadership coming through. Now Nehemiah has seen the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;initial&lt;/span&gt; task done he stands himself down and passes control to someone else. With a clear boundary to the authority. This then enables Nehemiah to look at the lists.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;You also see the characteristics being looked for in the leader - a honest man and feared God more than most men.  The first we all agree with but the last? Certainly I would more want to talk about loving God and being loved by God. Fearing God? The God who loves us and cares for us surely is not to be feared.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I have spoken about this somewhere before but sometimes in our packaging of God we overdo the cuddly and neglect the stature. Those in Old Testament times knew what they were dealing with. And for us if we do not fear Him at all then does that start to negate the judgement, mean we don't have to strive to be better because God is a pushover. And that's no good for us at all. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;We need to have a proper balance between fear and love if we are to be journeying correctly through life. Because there is no easy way in. Unless what the reports are saying about Rob Bell are right!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-5672763069298856492?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/5672763069298856492/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=5672763069298856492' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5672763069298856492'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5672763069298856492'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/lent-with-nehemiah-17.html' title='Lent with Nehemiah (17)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-7523039654011456342</id><published>2011-03-24T17:46:00.003Z</published><updated>2011-03-24T22:22:12.686Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nehemiah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Vocation'/><title type='text'>Lent with Nehemiah (16)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Someone get him a PA. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Nehemiah%206&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Nehemiah 6 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;seems to see a whole bunch of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;correspondence&lt;/span&gt; flying about. But if course the point is that Nehemiah is remaining steadfast while his enemies are gathering, trying to knock him off course. And certainly the reason for the opposition and Nehemiah's strength is his reliance on God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;There is a real lesson in persistence. Five times "same messenger, same message"; the same attempt to distract, the same stubborn response. For us the lesson is clear. We too can often get intimidated into giving up and Nehemiah's model of praying for strength is the model to follow.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;In essence this seems to reinforce what has gone before.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;But again read the words in the title "I'm Doing a Great Work; I Can't Come Down". Surely this statement could help us evaluate the worth of what we are doing and how we are living our lives. When is it that we are truly doing something so great for the Lord? And when do we stop to think could we be doing something more important.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I could get all pretentious about my role - and sometimes to be honest I do. I can consider it important, I can consider myself important. But then. If we were to create a new society would spin doctor be high on the list of desirable skills? That's not to diminish what I do but Nehemiah sets the bar high and I don't think I always hit it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;This is why I often think about my vocation, my true vocation with God. The work he has set and the work I should be doing. And I ask myself am I doing what I should be, is this what God wants for my life and if not then what should I do about it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;For unless I can truly in my heart say "I'm doing a great work I can't come down" I maybe need to do &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;something&lt;/span&gt; else.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-7523039654011456342?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/7523039654011456342/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=7523039654011456342' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7523039654011456342'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7523039654011456342'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/lent-with-nehemiah-16.html' title='Lent with Nehemiah (16)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-515943075339818870</id><published>2011-03-23T19:56:00.003Z</published><updated>2011-03-23T21:37:11.034Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Leadership'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nehemiah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><title type='text'>Lent with Nehemiah (15)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;So the people begin to protest and look after their own interests. So what's new. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Nehemiah%205&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Nehemiah 5 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;starts with the people protesting that they haven't got enough food to live by.  This see,s to be the other big role of the leader. Dealing with the complaints, protests, problems and individual concerns. This is not to diminish what the Jews were going through but often the temptation in life is to look through your own lens, with your own perspective and to fulfill your own desires.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;This is where often the leader needs to focus people back on the big picture. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Nehemiah does a good job. He gets people together, listens to them and makes a promise that the pain will be shared. We're all in it together. Sounds familiar. But it seems to work. Mainly because everyone keeps, and is made to keep to their word. Its that integrity thing again. Words are fine but unless they are supported by action then they are meaningless and ignored. And no one was getting one over on anyone else "we didn't have time to line our own pockets"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;But what is striking is the final words "Remember in my favour, O my God,    Everything I've done for these people" As a conversation with God about Christian service it's a good one.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-515943075339818870?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/515943075339818870/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=515943075339818870' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/515943075339818870'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/515943075339818870'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/lent-with-nehemiah-15.html' title='Lent with Nehemiah (15)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-5965557461751262972</id><published>2011-03-22T22:03:00.003Z</published><updated>2011-03-22T22:42:12.398Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Leadership'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nehemiah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><title type='text'>Lent with Nehemiah (14)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;So just when it seems to be going so well. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=nehemiah%204&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Nehemiah 4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt; seems to see the enemies gathering at the gate trying to test, and even break, the resolve of Nehemiah and the Israelites.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;This happens all the time. For whatever motivation, whatever theology, whatever ideology they may chose people are going to want to come between us and break down our defences. Nehemiah knows who our greatest defender is and readily turns to God for advice, support and inspiration. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Again we see great leadership examples. Nehemiah has a plan. he communicates the plan, and he tries to keep people focused on the task. Ever vigilant, ever prayerful and bringing God into the middle of the situation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Sounds a good way to do things. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I love the phrase in the Message version "We countered with prayer to our God". How often do we do that in any situation - not just pray about it but actively counter something with prayer. Too many times I have prayer as an afterthought. I have dealt with the problem and then I pray. Or I am halfway through and I pray. But never as a direct counter.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;It seems to be working for Nehemiah  - so maybe there is something in it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-5965557461751262972?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/5965557461751262972/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=5965557461751262972' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5965557461751262972'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5965557461751262972'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/lent-with-nehemiah-14.html' title='Lent with Nehemiah (14)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-4921015361491043996</id><published>2011-03-21T20:45:00.004Z</published><updated>2011-03-21T21:11:30.652Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='kingdom building'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nehemiah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><title type='text'>Lent with Nehemiah (13)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;And so the building work starts. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Nehemiah%203&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Nehemiah 3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; seems to show a real team effort. Except for the nobles who did not want to get their hands dirty (plus ca change). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Again what is interesting to me is the detailed recording of those who worked on the various parts of the project. It shows the level of care and organisation they had but also that it was important that the people's efforts were recorded for posterity. It reminds me of both Liverpool &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;cathedral&lt;/span&gt; and the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Met's&lt;/span&gt; projects where those whose efforts in building these great &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;edifices&lt;/span&gt; have been noted. In one way it's a natural source of pride for people. But, as with my comic relief posting &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;from yesterday&lt;/span&gt;, there is a danger that it swings from pride to ego.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;However, let's look at this metaphorically. The number of people involved in rebuilding Jerusalem can be seen as a challenge to us all to be part of the building of the new Kingdom. It emphasises the challenge to us all. We are all part of this kingdom building stuff and we can all leave our mark and our legacy for good on the hearts of those we touch and reach. We may be part of the foundation work for some, the scaffolding props for others, the windows for others (and I will stop before I stretch that imagery beyond all breaking point).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;But the basic point is true. We all have a role and none of us is too noble to get on with the dirty work.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-4921015361491043996?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/4921015361491043996/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=4921015361491043996' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/4921015361491043996'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/4921015361491043996'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/lent-with-nehemiah-13.html' title='Lent with Nehemiah (13)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-5612760444363209434</id><published>2011-03-20T17:33:00.002Z</published><updated>2011-03-20T18:03:56.222Z</updated><title type='text'>Lent with Nehemiah (12)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Having burnt myself out on the Comic Relief debate a short posting on &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Nehemiah%202&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;Nehemiah 2&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Again similar themes or leadership and following God emerge.  Nehemiah clearly knows what God wants to do and is prepared to challenge the King to allow him to do it. It is also an example of that well known Christian concept of the "arrow" prayer just before speaking. Now how often do we do that, just in the moment when we need it, pray quickly and quietly to God. Sometimes it may just help.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Nehemiah knew where his heart was, in the ruins of the city and the people,  and he knew what he had to do. If that meant summoning up the necessary courage to do something about it - talk to the king and let him go with a letter then so be it. And if that meant treading on some people's toes then that what he was prepared to do,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;So long as he had God behind him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Jesus often forced the issue and shook his disciples out of their complacency. The first thing they had to do was walk away from their living and follow Him. Then they were challenged to walk on water, sent out in pairs and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;eventually&lt;/span&gt; left to spread the word once Jesus had ascended. All scary stuff. But all things done with the power of the spirit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Is that the challenge we have?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-5612760444363209434?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/5612760444363209434/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=5612760444363209434' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5612760444363209434'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5612760444363209434'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/lent-with-nehemiah-12.html' title='Lent with Nehemiah (12)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-3472023020640744419</id><published>2011-03-20T13:09:00.004Z</published><updated>2011-03-20T14:43:45.195Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fasting; Comic Relief; Matthew; Social Justice;'/><title type='text'>My problem with Comic Relief</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;It came out in my talk on the ethical and spiritual practices of the Kingdom, part of our latest Living in the Kingdom series.  Comic Relief, Children in Need cause me a big ethical problem and the problem lies in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206&amp;amp;version=NIV"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Matthew 6&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Point one is based on Matthew 6:1"&lt;em&gt;Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. "&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;As we try and follow Jesus on the narrow path all sorts of problems confront us. One of them is to consider whose rule we will follow and whose reward we are after. It's not quite as simple as "I like God's Kingdom and I like the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;kingdom&lt;/span&gt; of the world but which one is best". God's kingdom has a more complicated relationship with this earth. We are not waiting for it in the afterlife, it is here. Now. Breaking through in all sorts of ways. And we have to live in the mix - the choice is about where we put our emphasis. And what gives us most reward?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;For we can seek the rewards of this world.  The transient reward of our peers – the people who will build you up and knock you back down again. The get rich schemes, the trample all over each other to hit the top of the career path, the be careful who you upset on the way up. The overspend, overdraft, worrying about interest rates and keeping up with the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Jones's&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;The message is in Matthew 6: 19  "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal". Jesus is warning us about the transient nature of earthly wealth, the shallowness of that pursuit and the importance of seeking God. Because God’s rewards are eternal because God is true, faithful and constant in His love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Then we have to think about the witness we offer as Christians, Matthew 6:1 "Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven". We have to work out what is integral to our faith and what is possibly for show – where do we want the honour. From our peers or from God. One may be satisfying in the short term but… &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;If we are to profess the faith we must do it with integrity. That is not a false unrealistic purity but the knowledge that we &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;are not&lt;/span&gt; perfect but we are working at being better. Faith is not about poise and posture it is an authentic working out of our relationship with God &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Matthew 6:2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;And so to Comic Relief, Children in Need and the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;dilemma&lt;/span&gt; that these big charity jamborees cause me. They obviously bring money for needy causes but at what cost? And when do they tip over into the promotion of individuals – Chris &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Moyles&lt;/span&gt; and his sidekick are wonderful because they did a 52 hour continuous radio show – is it about them or the £2m they raised? Look at the brands lining up to be part of Comic Relief. Walkers Crisps, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Maltesers&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;Sainsburys&lt;/span&gt;, every bank, the BBC – you name it. Everyone wants a part. And each year I worry that less and less is about the charity and more is about the product and profit. Where is the tipping point? Because they raise money! Pots of it!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Yet there's another problem. The raise money for the projects and causes that fits with their brand image. What then happens to all the charitable causes and individuals that don't fit into the "photogenic" image that the brand wants. But then that leads into the danger that the cause follows the money, that projects are created to fit a particular criteria not deal with a real need.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;But they raise money and do good. So there's the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;dilemma&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;On a more local basis. If we have a legacy that we want to give to the church do we set up a project in our name or control where the money goes. You can’t spend my money on x cos I have given you the money and therefore I can say what I do or don’t like. Churches have been built by individuals with that agenda. A chapel to glorify its benefactor more than God? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;It's a danger we can all slip into  - if we are &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;focused&lt;/span&gt; on &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;ourselves&lt;/span&gt; not God we run the risk of making egotistical decisions. And these can be wrong decisions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;But they raise money and do good. So there's the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;dilemma&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And finally, I am giving up chocolate and wine for lent. I tell many people about this. And the conversation is about jokes about staying sober – or eating &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;choclate&lt;/span&gt; in front of me – or will power etc. About my endurance, my courage, my stupidity. Me me me! What happened to lent practices being about God! And I connive in this when I should be taking the opportunity to proclaim and discuss my faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And that is what Jesus is warning us about!!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-3472023020640744419?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/3472023020640744419/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=3472023020640744419' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3472023020640744419'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3472023020640744419'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/my-problem-with-comic-relief.html' title='My problem with Comic Relief'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-5724333492562261071</id><published>2011-03-19T17:53:00.003Z</published><updated>2011-03-19T18:38:08.952Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='patriarchs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nehemiah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ezra'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='integrity'/><title type='text'>Moving to Nehemiah (Day 11)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;As so the plan's flaw comes to &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;fruition&lt;/span&gt;. With only ten chapters I have exhausted Ezra so now I move to Nehemiah and continue with the related story. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I sometimes forget that the Old Testament has a number of books that tell the same story from different perspectives. Have done so much thinking and justifying this in the Gospel stories that when it happens elsewhere it almost catches me by surprise. Anyway. As far as I can see &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Nehemiah+1&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Nehemiah 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt; puts us back into the familiar territory we had with Ezra.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;However the main thing that comes across to me is the trick of double listening. Nehemiah listens to his people, their stories and concerns. Then he turns to God. Again integrity comes through as he includes himself in the blame, rather than shoving it all on to the people. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;In the Message version there is a great deal of honesty in the way Nehemiah talks to God, a directness of language and thought. This again is something we should learn from. Often in our worship, house groups and anytime the 2 or 3 are gathered we try and find a "&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;churchy&lt;/span&gt;" language to talk to God. It's &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;unnecessary&lt;/span&gt;. It puts off the non Christian and again brings about a false piety and purity. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;The Patriarchs were much more direct in their conversation. For me this is more &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;engaging&lt;/span&gt; and useful and is a model I want to aspire to.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-5724333492562261071?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/5724333492562261071/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=5724333492562261071' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5724333492562261071'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5724333492562261071'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/moving-to-nehemiah-day-11.html' title='Moving to Nehemiah (Day 11)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-6510163676959905235</id><published>2011-03-18T19:54:00.003Z</published><updated>2011-03-18T20:39:34.289Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Leadership'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ezra'/><title type='text'>Ezra (10)</title><content type='html'>It's about leadership again. &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ezra%2010&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;Ezra 10&lt;/a&gt; and the title in the Message version says it all. Ezra takes charge.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We have the crisis - the betrayal of God through &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;intermarriage&lt;/span&gt;  - so now we need some action to restore Israel. Reminiscent of "some people have greatness thrust upon them quote" here it appears that Ezra had leadership thrust upon him. But he rose to the challenge, turned to God and became leader.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We can all look to someone else to be the leader. Too many people, too many churches are strong on having the idea &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;but&lt;/span&gt; prefer the action to be taken by someone else. Often the vicar. However we &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;should accept&lt;/span&gt; that sometimes it is time to step up to the plate and take action. Leadership is not just about role but it is also influence. And the church, God needs his leaders to come from anywhere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(as an aside it is interesting that cyberspace is all about the language of acquiring followers - I have followers to this blog, people follow me on twitter - not in stratospheric numbers but followers nonetheless. In this world of followers and leaders the question is what good are we doing for those who follow. Charlie Sheen was followed by millions but had nothing real to offer. Jesus....)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Too many people also will look for the route out that says "I have not heard God directly speak to me therefore I won't". I did for twenty years. But God can call through the needs of others pushing someone up to the plate and asking them to take charge.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It happened to the disciples. Once Jesus had gone back to heaven they were on their own, thrust into leadership positions. Two have been revered more than the others which is interesting in &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;itself&lt;/span&gt;. How do some get to be more noted as leaders than others. All had leadership thrust onto them though  - in a way like Ezra&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But, as with Ezra, the disciples had God's spirit - and that is what we all need to guide us. Leaders or not.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-6510163676959905235?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/6510163676959905235/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=6510163676959905235' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6510163676959905235'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6510163676959905235'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/ezra-10.html' title='Ezra (10)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-654846539476135029</id><published>2011-03-17T17:10:00.005Z</published><updated>2011-03-17T18:10:40.649Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Holinesss'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jesus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ezra'/><title type='text'>Ezra (Day9)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Now we struggle, well I do anyway. &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ezra%209&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;Ezra 9&lt;/a&gt; sees a more settled community &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;intermingling&lt;/span&gt; with the locals and seemingly getting into a lot of hot water. Now my problem is that on level is I can't see the issue. I can see it as a cultural thing - different places, different times requiring different attitudes - but is it such a big deal? For me it wouldn't be, it's all part of life's rich tapestry. However for the Israelites it is clearly massive.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;The issue seems to be that of maintaining holiness, purity and integrity of the community. And that I understand. Up to a point. The Israelites wanted to maintain a cultural identity but also establish themselves as a pure community. And while to me the root they took doesn't fit with 21st Century Britain I see a principle behind that is a useful model for all.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;For me the issue comes back to the integrity thing. I feel it keenly as a pastor and preacher. I may offer fine words, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;homilies&lt;/span&gt; and advice (feel free to disagree) but if it is not supported from a position of integrity then the whole message is damaged and flawed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;It always puzzles me when a politician is said to be giving the speech of his or her political career as if it is the words that we should judge them on. Well words are fine but if they are not matched with a whole life integrity then they are diminished. This is something I have based my whole preaching and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;pastoring&lt;/span&gt; life on so far and it is incredibly important.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;And we need to &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;separate&lt;/span&gt; integrity from purity. Purity is a state that we can aspire to but will probably never &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;achieve&lt;/span&gt;. That's why we need and worship a pure God who will make us pure in the final account. The problem is we sometimes talk about the purity we aspire to without being able to match it. Integrity is about saying I am aiming, failing, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;re aiming&lt;/span&gt; and continuing to try. I hope it is a spiritual honesty that can be attractive and helpful to others.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;So we need to decide. in the world or out of it. I probably have a hokey &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;cokey&lt;/span&gt; relationship at different times but if we are not in part in the world how can we understand it. And if God created he whole world, and cares for the whole world then we need to engage with the world. And from the list of music I listen to anyone could tell my tastes are anything but holy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;But the other thing we learn from this community is the amount of awe and respect they held God in. This fear of God which sometimes we, in our zeal to attract converts, play down was very real. God was a powerful vital God - something to be &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;reckoned&lt;/span&gt; with. Sometimes, and I am guilty of this, we present a too cuddly, friendly God and while that may seem a user friendly way in is it really the most helpful. I often rail against what I see as the easy promises of newspaper astrology and don't think we could make easy promises for God. Jesus didn't. His selling point was the narrow road carrying a cross.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Of course what he did promise is he would be with you - and he had integrity in spades.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-654846539476135029?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/654846539476135029/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=654846539476135029' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/654846539476135029'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/654846539476135029'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/ezra-day9.html' title='Ezra (Day9)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-7430725327390409240</id><published>2011-03-16T21:09:00.003Z</published><updated>2011-03-16T21:55:48.294Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PIME'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Leadership'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ezra'/><title type='text'>Ezra (Day 8)</title><content type='html'>So another chapter another list. &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ezra%208&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;Ezra 8&lt;/a&gt; and you get the details (possibly the same again  - am not good on the cross reference) of those who followed Ezra.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And that's a key point about leadership. Obvious and stated by others but you can't possibly be a leader if no one follows. At a recent &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;PIME&lt;/span&gt; session Rev Neil Short talked about the idea that to be a leader you simply have to set out the journey and ask people if they want to join in. Nothing more, nothing less.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Clearly that works for a lot of the roles of the church and not least if we want to head into mission. We need leaders to define the task  - where we want to go and then take us there. And there are times when we can all be leaders and others when we need to be content to be followers. After all, as disciples, there is at least one who we can all agree to be following.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ezra seems to have leadership in spades. And he offers a good model as a leader. Not only is he able to bring people with him but in his decision making he is fasting, praying and seeking God's &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;guidance&lt;/span&gt;. And God is good, "Our God lovingly looks after all those who seek him"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So again Ezra seems to be a model, bringing people with him and seeking the guidance of God on the way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So far, so good...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-7430725327390409240?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/7430725327390409240/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=7430725327390409240' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7430725327390409240'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7430725327390409240'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/ezra-day-8.html' title='Ezra (Day 8)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-8953838356921040401</id><published>2011-03-15T20:39:00.003Z</published><updated>2011-03-15T21:02:04.165Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PIME'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Leadership'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='authority. Church of England'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ezra'/><title type='text'>Ezra (Day 7)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Enter Ezra himself. &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ezra%207&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;Chapter 7&lt;/a&gt; and a model for the priesthood. Arriving after the temple is built and again the scripture places a strong weight on his ancestry. Why? Is it reinforcing the motion that only certain people are able to be in the priesthood. If you're not from the right family you're not in.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I'm not sure about that. But what this whole passage does speak to me - someone who has been both licensed as a Reader, now ordained as Deacon and hopefully later this year admitted to the Priesthood - about authority and integrity. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Interestingly at the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;PIME&lt;/span&gt; last Sunday I remarked to someone how at times I have felt that my own understanding of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;churchmanship&lt;/span&gt; has the potential to lead me into the free church. Yet something has kept me &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Anglican&lt;/span&gt;. That's authority. Now I'm not saying other models of church do not have strong models of leadership and authority but for me the Church of England has a model that works.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;This passage, through the lineage, establishes Ezra's credentials. He's an expert scholar, a leader and someone who is committed to further and deeper study for the benefit of the people. The letter from Artaxerxes gives him the authority. He's organised, committed to God's call, knows what he needs to do and is prepared to do it. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;"My God was on my side and I was ready to go. And I organized all the leaders of Israel to go with me."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;At this stage he may even be my new role model&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-8953838356921040401?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/8953838356921040401/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=8953838356921040401' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8953838356921040401'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8953838356921040401'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/ezra-day-7.html' title='Ezra (Day 7)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-7698788091911500295</id><published>2011-03-14T18:51:00.003Z</published><updated>2011-03-14T23:33:23.066Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ezra'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bureaucracy'/><title type='text'>Ezra (Day 6)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Oh the importance of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;bureaucracy&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezra%206&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Chapter 6 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;and they find the memo that gives permission for the building to happen. And thus they can get on and finish the job.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Now many, probably myself among them, will rail against the bureaucrat and in this Big Society cost cutting Britain cutting that red tape is a clarion call for many. Yet this passage shows how &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;bureaucracy&lt;/span&gt; can have its purpose. That is clearly reminding us of agreements made and promises pledged. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;So many times good ideas can be &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;scuppered&lt;/span&gt; because the original goal posts are moved. Either deliberately or &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;unintentionally&lt;/span&gt; people can shift focus and the project, idea, opportunity is lost. Having it in writing is important, it keeps people to their word and helps them stay on track. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I often find that having something written offers a mechanism to depersonalise an argument or discussion. That, for me, is the best use of a design &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;styleguide&lt;/span&gt;. It enables us to say this is not about me judging your design work - it is simply seeing whether there is a conformity with an agreed standard - what we set out to achieve in the first place.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;So King Cyrus' decree was pretty clear in intent and detailed in instruction and was clearly the mechanism used to help God's people complete the building.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;And then witness the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;exuberance&lt;/span&gt; of the celebrations. A wholehearted passionate celebration of what God has provide. I have a blog entry ready for that - but that is for another day at another time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-7698788091911500295?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/7698788091911500295/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=7698788091911500295' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7698788091911500295'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7698788091911500295'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/ezra-day-6.html' title='Ezra (Day 6)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-8981454534021519224</id><published>2011-03-13T18:19:00.003Z</published><updated>2011-03-13T18:43:44.873Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rules'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PIME'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ten Commandments'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ezra'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Law'/><title type='text'>Ezra (Day 5)</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ezra%205&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Again a short reflection on today's chapter&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; And a reminder that these are not based on academic study but are simply a reaction to the text as I read day by day over Lent.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;The main thing I note is that those who oppose anything we do can find a piece of red tape to help them do it. "Who issued you a permit to rebuild this Temple and restore it to use?"  - was the challenge put to the Israelites. Yes we need rules and regulations to prevent people from the excess that could damage themselves and others (for me that is always the principle behind God's Sinai Commandments). But we throw rules at each other to control and manipulate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;I can be tempted to do this in the office. I set rules for how we communicate so that I control the process. To me that is fine and legitimate. We need a degree of consistency in how we do things and rules help us achieve this. It can also, usefully, depersonalise a discussion and argument. But these rules have to be agreed and collectively owned not imposed - and I have a responsibility to make sure I don't fall into that trap.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;But these thoughts go wider than me. With our canons and faculties the Church have created a raft of legislation that (on top of the statutory laws we also have to deal with). We do need to consider whether these are God rules for God's mission or constraints that have been set against His purpose.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;At different times at the last two &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;PIME&lt;/span&gt; sessions we have reflected on how some of our better leaders have stretched and tested the rules to get things done, and in particular, achieve growth. Often these can help us redefine our purpose and achieve a better clarification on what can help us actually get the job done for God's purpose. For "God had an eye on the Jews" - and has an eye on us. And surely if we are working truthfully to his call and in his power nothing can stop us. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-8981454534021519224?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/8981454534021519224/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=8981454534021519224' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8981454534021519224'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8981454534021519224'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/ezra-day-5.html' title='Ezra (Day 5)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-6121848847532042024</id><published>2011-03-12T17:23:00.008Z</published><updated>2011-03-18T21:50:29.099Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ezra'/><title type='text'>Ezra (Day 4)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;And so after the initial rush of focus and enthusiasm the building stops and another project takes over &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ezra%204&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;(Ezra 4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Hmmmmmmmmm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Now that does sound familiar at all? And on day 4 - Saturday - when I have other things to do and other projects to work on, the temptation to abandon this path I have embarked on is quite over powering. Let's face it I started well enough, even wrote last night when I was dead on my feet, so why not give myself a break.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;This passage seems to be that this is the way to ultimate failure. Giving up is probably more likely when the finish line seems so distant. This is why we need to stick at the spiritual disciplines to keep us on track and to continuing to walk with God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;For as well as fighting the devil within we also have those who will "sap our resolve". There are many out there who want to stop us in our tracks, prevent us from getting the job done - as the passage says "to sap our resolve". We have to fight against this, remind ourselves what we are about and what our prime tasks and purposes are.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;This is true of the corporate church. We have many initiatives, days to mark, campaigns to support, funds to raise, projects to sap our energy. So we don't know where to turn. And that's where can not get anything done because we only half, quarter achieve anything.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;And my plank is that I am exactly a person who does that. wants to be involved in everything that I succeed, truly succeed in very little. That must change.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Another thing is clear. If we build the temple of God we are a threat to those who want to run God down. The building of the temple was interpreted as a threat and action was taken to stop it. This shows that temple building is important. For me the temple is me and I can be a house for the Lord if I let him. So I must not stop building my spiritual home to allow God to shine through. Doing it in partnership with God or it will all be in vain. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;This lent I am going to lay down some more stones.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-6121848847532042024?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/6121848847532042024/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=6121848847532042024' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6121848847532042024'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6121848847532042024'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/ezra-day-4.html' title='Ezra (Day 4)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-6304485124468196611</id><published>2011-03-11T18:24:00.003Z</published><updated>2011-03-12T17:22:58.290Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rules'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ezra'/><title type='text'>Ezra (Day 3)</title><content type='html'>Two quick thoughts about the reading from &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ezra%203&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;Chapter 3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One is the phrase "even though they were afraid of what their neighbours might do they went ahead anyway". Years ago I heard someone &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;say&lt;/span&gt; the phrase "we are constrained by the rules in our own heads". How often are we, am I afraid to anything &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;because&lt;/span&gt; of what &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;someone else&lt;/span&gt; may do or say. I was told years ago to contribute more in class and not keep my own &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;counsel&lt;/span&gt; because of what others might think. Yet I still feel I hold punches, try to be diplomatic. Yet worse than that. Having said I was embarking on a journey with God I sometimes wonder if I haven't stalled on that journey through being afraid. Yet God says do not be afraid so many times. Maybe I should listen, truly listen more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;second&lt;/span&gt; thought is the outrageous passion of the worship that is offered towards the end of the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;passage&lt;/span&gt;. They are really going for it. And again where do we see, or even expect to see that passion. On the football pitch and in the rock concert yes. In church? It's been said so many times if only we could capture that support and passion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well we can. It starts with me and you. And the only thing that constrains us is the rules in our heads!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-6304485124468196611?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/6304485124468196611/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=6304485124468196611' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6304485124468196611'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6304485124468196611'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/ezra-day-3.html' title='Ezra (Day 3)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-249490096929240755</id><published>2011-03-10T20:36:00.004Z</published><updated>2011-03-10T21:32:07.172Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ezra'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Detail'/><title type='text'>Lent with Ezra (Day Two)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Not much to reflect on in the reading tonight. (&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezra%202&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;Ezra 2&lt;/a&gt;)It is one of those somewhat tiresome &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;genealogy&lt;/span&gt; passages that sensible people skip over as they move to the more juicy stories the Old Testament has to offer. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;However the main received wisdom about passages of this is that they 1) establish and link the rest of the action into some form of historical perspective 2) they remind us of the importance of family and community and 3) they offer a great amount of (bizarre) detail.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Showing the historical perspective allows us to analyse the voracity of the biblical claim. Not so much this passage maybe where it is internalised around the tribes of Israel, But generally it is offering an outward perspective on the story of Israel. And that reminds us that we should always look outwards. God is for the world as well as the individual and I want to release the spirit of my heart and share it widely lest it be cold and overprotected.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;We can easily fall into the trap of thinking of Israel as one. One nation under God. And yes it was one nation yet what a diverse one. This passage lists (to be inaccurate count) at least 120  different tribes and families each with a wide variety of members. And we worry about the different factions in our churches! The point is the same as before. God is for everyone and we should be more outward looking. (reasons for mission or what). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Leads to challenge to self number 1. How outward looking and all embracing am I. Do I &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;want&lt;/span&gt; to engage with all or just myself and my narrow clique?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Finally a point about detail from a non detail person. It is amazing that the Bible records numbers of people in tribes and families. I mean who cares? Just get on with the story. But it shows the level of care that God who knows the hairs on our head, our &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;beginning&lt;/span&gt; and end and grieves when a sparrow dies. God is the big picture but he is also in the detail of our lives. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Maybe Lent is a time to remember that?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-249490096929240755?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/249490096929240755/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=249490096929240755' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/249490096929240755'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/249490096929240755'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/lent-with-ezra-day-two.html' title='Lent with Ezra (Day Two)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-1089998241444085036</id><published>2011-03-09T18:59:00.004Z</published><updated>2011-03-10T21:38:14.570Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='God&apos;s prodding'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nehemiah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ezra'/><title type='text'>With Ezra, Nehemiah (and possibly someone else) at Lent</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I don't do bible reading notes and my reading discipline is poor. So I am trying to read a chapter a day every day during lent. And reflect on what I have read here. It is not a commentary or theological dissection of the text. It is a collection of my thoughts and reactions to the text. As many or as few as I have. I'm reading Peterson's The Message.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Am attracted to this period of rebuilding and the notions of being focused and refocused. A period of challenge to a people's identity and the task of holding onto that identity. And the tools used for this are shown in Ezra. As Peterson says in his introduction to the chapter "Worship and Text remain foundational for recovering and maintaining identity as the People of God"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;And that is so relevant to us today.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ezra%201&amp;amp;version=MSG"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Chapter One&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Peterson uses the phrase "God prodded" and describes an enthusiastic response to that prodding with freewill offerings given to the cause of building the temple in Jerusalem. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;We all know that God prods us in so many ways and we can choose to be prodded or to resist. It took my ages to respond to a prodding towards my baptism and since then I have had &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;proddings&lt;/span&gt; into lay reader and then ordained ministry. And in each case; baptism, licensing and ordination my initial response was the enthusiastic outpouring of God's blessing. Yet over time the more jaded, cynical world weary me kicks in and says goodbye to the enthusiastic responder.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;We know that in this story the people lose their focus and purpose and need to be brought back to God. &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;And&lt;/span&gt; today we must do the same for ourselves and each other. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Lent is a good place to start that supportive, spiritual process.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-1089998241444085036?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/1089998241444085036/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=1089998241444085036' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/1089998241444085036'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/1089998241444085036'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/with-ezra-nehemiah-at-lent.html' title='With Ezra, Nehemiah (and possibly someone else) at Lent'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-7964091609476135685</id><published>2011-03-08T17:13:00.004Z</published><updated>2011-03-08T22:37:12.473Z</updated><title type='text'>The critical danger of hypocrisy</title><content type='html'>&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5581759383676730642" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 214px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 320px" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-phfIu1UcTHg/TXZklgXBPRI/AAAAAAAAADk/E8pjizm1aJc/s320/BC_01_Tearfund.jpg" border="0" /&gt;At this year's &lt;a href="http://www.liverpool.anglican.org/index.php?p=1561"&gt;Carbon Fast launch with Bishop James and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Tearfund&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/a&gt;today - at the marvelous &lt;a href="http://www.asfaonline.org/"&gt;St Francis of Assisi Academy&lt;/a&gt;  a journalist asked me why, on an initiative to save energy, were we promoting it with an inflatable light bulb powered by electricity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Two thoughts arose. Firstly how easy is it to look for fault. We all do it in every sphere - the "&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;ahh&lt;/span&gt; that was OK but ..." Secondly how easy it is to level the charge of hypocrisy at an individual or organisation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;So in this case. Clearly we all use some energy in each of our activities. This blog takes energy. But the point is about what we can do to reduce our Carbon Footprint and to bring some balance back into the world's ecology. In the face of that is picking away at some of the detail so important? And in this case are we trying to expose the hypocritical act - which is the important duty of a journalist - or just looking at the small detail that may trip someone up?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;But similarly, as leaders and people who pronounce a different vision we do have to have the integrity behind what we speak. I know this is something the Bishop is very strong on. And it is something I feel is important in my own Christian witness. It is more important to be truthful and honest in the journey than to be unrealistically holy.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;And in the case the answer is simple and twofold. Firstly, as far as I am aware the electricity that supplied the hot air came from sustainable sources. Secondly the Fast is about helping us all take small, manageable steps towards the environmental goal. No one can do everything but all can do something and that's what we are encouraged to do. Something.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;As for me - I am aware of how much I look for the flaw in something I see or someone else is doing. This is clearly unfair and so I will start to look to the plank in my own eye first.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-7964091609476135685?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/7964091609476135685/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=7964091609476135685' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7964091609476135685'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7964091609476135685'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/critical-danger-of-hypocrisy.html' title='The critical danger of hypocrisy'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-phfIu1UcTHg/TXZklgXBPRI/AAAAAAAAADk/E8pjizm1aJc/s72-c/BC_01_Tearfund.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-5941847332131969317</id><published>2011-03-07T19:28:00.003Z</published><updated>2011-03-07T19:43:34.891Z</updated><title type='text'>It's an apprenticeship not a degree (pt 2)</title><content type='html'>Completed out 3 week series on Micah yesterday by looking at why and how we walk humbly with God. As I mentioned last week I wanted to move beyond the glib answer - pray, read, ask - no matter how much of a truism that is, The challenge, as far as I see it, is for us all to think about the journey we are on (and the start of Lent is a good time to do this) and work out the steps we need to take in that walk. The answer, the step is different for each of us. But we each must take that step.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We must become apprentices not just learners. Jesus taught a whole life lesson and his disciples, as we know, learnt through listening, doing, making mistakes, being set challenges etc. And despite being so close to him they still failed to understand all the time. Hope for us all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I said the walk is individual and it may not necessarily be an easy one. Jesus said take up your cross not come along it will be a breeze. And some people walk a tougher road than others. But as &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Bruggeman&lt;/span&gt; said “God himself walked humbly among us and does so even now”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For me walking humbly is walking in God’s presence not in some idealised version of life. God walked amongst the dead and dying of the trenches, of Auschwitz, of Hiroshima. He walks amongst the people of Egypt and Libya. He walks with the persecuted. He walks with the ill, the frightened. He walks to the lost. He walks ahead of and alongside us in whatever we do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;but we must walk with integrity and honesty. The walk we take is our walk with our successes and frustrations not a sanitised "holy" walk that we think will impress others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So the challenge for Lent is threefold.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;What is your next step?&lt;/em&gt; What do you need to do to move along your personal journey of faith?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Who is your rabbi?&lt;/em&gt; Who do you look to for inspiration - a friend, fellow Christian, an inspirational writer? Who do you model your life on?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Who is your apprentice? &lt;/em&gt;As we can model our lives on others so we can model our lives to others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who can you inspire to walk humbly with God?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-5941847332131969317?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/5941847332131969317/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=5941847332131969317' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5941847332131969317'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5941847332131969317'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/its-apprenticeship-not-degree-pt-2.html' title='It&apos;s an apprenticeship not a degree (pt 2)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-518567490835126155</id><published>2011-03-06T07:30:00.005Z</published><updated>2011-03-06T08:05:37.279Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Spirituality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Holinesss'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='SNWTP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rule of Life'/><title type='text'>This years' Lent</title><content type='html'>My lent observance fluctuates over the years. Some years I have given up practically everything. For others I have taken the view, as many do, it is more about what you take up than give up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;My dilemma. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Giving up things does not always feel like a spiritual practice. When I have given up alcohol or chocolate I sometimes think that this is more about detox than religious observance. (A bit like when I have fasted and concentrated more on my hunger than on God). When I have not given anything up then I feel I am taking the easy route out. And that is tantamount to fashioning God in my image. Oh God won't mind if I don't take the observance of Lent seriously after all I do enough for him do I not!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12657101"&gt;This morning the Archbishop of Westminster is reported to be urging all Catholics to give up meat for Lent&lt;/a&gt;. The &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;BBC's&lt;/span&gt; religion correspondent Robert &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Pigott&lt;/span&gt; says in the BBC article "it is a sign of the Church's belief that even as secularisation takes its toll on church attendance, its own ancient rituals and traditions can meet the continuing need of people to explore their spirituality. " That interests and excites me.  Since learning about the spiritual rule of life on Ordination Training I have been convinced that a key to happiness is around getting all these things in balance. And if that means, as the Archbishop says, some element of self sacrifice then so be it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And as he says the physical detox can be a spiritual matter. Having a healthier body - my body is a temple for God to inhabit (I'm sure that's written somewhere!) - is pleasing to God and therefore worth doing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So this Lent I am giving up alcohol, stopping the chocolate intake. But I am also going to focus on improving my spiritual knowledge and spend more time reading  and in prayer with God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now to find a book...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-518567490835126155?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/518567490835126155/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=518567490835126155' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/518567490835126155'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/518567490835126155'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/this-years-lent.html' title='This years&apos; Lent'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-3397906702791272732</id><published>2011-03-05T15:57:00.004Z</published><updated>2011-03-18T22:14:45.149Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Psalms'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Passion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Punk'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Praise'/><title type='text'>A Punk church of passion</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;"Punk is about freedom: musical, physical﻿ , intellectual, or of any kind, and doesn't have to be full of rage". A comment on a &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Buzzcocks&lt;/span&gt; video sparked a number of thoughts in me.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Firstly it's true. What attracts me to the, too numerous to mention, bands that form the punk music is not the swearing, not the rebellion as such, but it is the passion. It's an attitude that says I feel it, I want to express it. It doesn't matter if it is not note perfect, it doesn't matter if it is frayed round the edges, it doesn't matter if it's clumsy. I feel it and I want to express it. Loud and proud.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;But God does not want that in church now does he?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yeah right. Look at the psalms. Psalm 1&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;oo&lt;/span&gt; "Shout for joy to the LORD, all the earth."; Psalm 33 " Sing to him a new song; play skillfully, and shout for joy"; Psalm 47 "God has ascended amid shouts of joy, the LORD amid the sounding of trumpets"; Psalm 71 "My lips will shout for joy when I sing praise to you" And much more beside.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;And of course the crowds showed their passion both for and against Jesus at either end of His Passion journey.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Obvious question - what have we done to the passion? I want to be a passionate punk vicar shouting to God his praise. When do I start?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;For those unfamiliar - here is the song (only about 2 minutes if you are really not sure)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe title="YouTube video player" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HQZHCTIDwrw" frameborder="0" width="480" height="390"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-3397906702791272732?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/3397906702791272732/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=3397906702791272732' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3397906702791272732'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3397906702791272732'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/punk-church-of-passion.html' title='A Punk church of passion'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/HQZHCTIDwrw/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-5889964438193506216</id><published>2011-03-05T15:49:00.005Z</published><updated>2011-03-05T17:19:24.806Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='humanism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='education'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>And another thing....</title><content type='html'>While on the topic...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6IGwUFX24pg/TXJbypJklLI/AAAAAAAAADc/9eKMG4mU1vg/s1600/banner.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5580623813863052466" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 160px" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6IGwUFX24pg/TXJbypJklLI/AAAAAAAAADc/9eKMG4mU1vg/s320/banner.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Exclusive to Guardian readers, your chance to get three issues of New Humanist, Britain's brightest and best magazine for free thinkers - plus an exclusive free DVD starring Robin &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Ince&lt;/span&gt;, Richard &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Dawkins&lt;/span&gt;, Stewart Lee and Simon Singh and a free pack of God Trumps, all for just £3 (saving £8.85 on the cover price).With wit and flair, every issue of New Humanist covers current world affairs and explores vital ethical issues - from the encroachment of religion into science, education and politics to debates over gene therapy and assisted dying to hot political topics like freedom of speech, the faith agenda and fundamentalism. Alongside serious debates about the role of religion in public life we also find time to lampoon the wilder claims of quacks, creationists, cults and charlatans.As part of this fantastic introductory offer, you will receive &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="COLOR: #ff0000" href="http://guardianmail.co.uk/go.asp?/bGUA001/mVGL6UXM1/qDPCXUXM1/uWBEZ4/x4E86UXM1/cutf%2D8" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;two unique free gifts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;: a DVD of Nine Lessons and Carols for Godless People, the annual rationalist celebration of comedy and science, starring Robin &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Ince&lt;/span&gt;, Richard &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Dawkins&lt;/span&gt;, Josie Long, Stewart Lee, Simon Singh, Richard Herring with special guest Jarvis &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Cocker&lt;/span&gt; a pack of our hit sacrilegious God Trumps cards.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;... I draw your attention to the line "from the encroachment of religion into science, education and politics". I ask you. Since when was religion separate from this? As one of the archbishops said this week God is about humans. From Genesis onwards we are told this - its about the relationship between the deity and the human. God is interested in the world and the development of its people and science, education and politics are expressions of that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And I have no problem with science coexisting with religion. Its the how and the why. So again I would say that both the religious and the non religious can have equal say in these topics. There's room for both, so stop saying we're encroaching cos I believe God got there first.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-5889964438193506216?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/5889964438193506216/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=5889964438193506216' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5889964438193506216'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5889964438193506216'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/and-another-thing.html' title='And another thing....'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6IGwUFX24pg/TXJbypJklLI/AAAAAAAAADc/9eKMG4mU1vg/s72-c/banner.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-9111051867367715754</id><published>2011-03-04T11:37:00.008Z</published><updated>2011-03-05T17:22:53.451Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='humanism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Teaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='free thinkers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Genesis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preaching'/><title type='text'>Free thinkers allowed</title><content type='html'>A constant problem in my life is that many of the papers I read, the artists I admire, the comedians I watch have completely contradictory views and values to mine. Worse than that often the people I like are hostile to my religion. That's fine - it can be uncomfortable - but people are entitled to hold their belief as I hold mine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But this annoys. It's my fault for being a Guardian reader I know but I got invited to take up a subscription to New Humanist with the following ad.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7-v63gfn8GU/TXDPg_IljhI/AAAAAAAAADU/-4tTuVP8JKk/s1600/banner.jpg"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5580188103922257426" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 160px" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7-v63gfn8GU/TXDPg_IljhI/AAAAAAAAADU/-4tTuVP8JKk/s320/banner.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; Exclusive to Guardian readers, your chance to get three issues of New Humanist, Britain's brightest and best magazine for free thinkers - plus an exclusive free DVD starring Robin &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Ince&lt;/span&gt;, Richard &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Dawkins&lt;/span&gt;, Stewart Lee and Simon Singh and a free pack of God Trumps, all for just £3 (saving £8.85 on the cover price).With wit and flair, every issue of New Humanist covers current world affairs and explores vital ethical issues - from the encroachment of religion into science, education and politics to debates over gene therapy and assisted dying to hot political topics like freedom of speech, the faith agenda and fundamentalism. Alongside serious debates about the role of religion in public life we also find time to lampoon the wilder claims of quacks, creationists, cults and charlatans.As part of this fantastic introductory offer, you will receive &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="COLOR: #ff0000" href="http://guardianmail.co.uk/go.asp?/bGUA001/mVGL6UXM1/qDPCXUXM1/uWBEZ4/x4E86UXM1/cutf%2D8" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;two unique free gifts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;a DVD of Nine Lessons and Carols for Godless People, the annual rationalist celebration of comedy and science, starring Robin &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Ince&lt;/span&gt;, Richard &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Dawkins&lt;/span&gt;, Josie Long, Stewart Lee, Simon Singh, Richard Herring with special guest Jarvis &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Cocker&lt;/span&gt; a pack of our hit sacrilegious God Trumps cards&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now lampooning, sacrilegious behaviour and the like don't necessarily bother me. People are entitled to the views and belief systems and let's face it if you don't believe God exists then you can't be sacrilegious. What annoys me is the notion that if you are religious then you are indoctrinated and not capable of free thought. God's gift is a gift of freedom. He gave us the ability to think for ourselves (and let's face it, as Genesis tells us, to disobey!). I believe I am a free thinker, I can discern the truth as I see it based on my study of scripture and my experience of life. And I have challenged the bible more since becoming an ordained minister and learnt more of its truth. So for the atheists and humanists to say they are the only ones with the claim to free thinking is wrong. It's as if they are saying when you were young you believed in childish things such as God (and Father Christmas). Grown up people think. Not true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The church has given people an open goal to propagate the argument. The constant theme in my life and ministry is the number of times we preach the answer rather than teach people towards a solution. By doing this over the centuries we have run counter to what Jesus did. His parables are not about explanation but a start for exploration. A way into the way. By doing this we have created an expectation of solution rather than helping people with the true struggle, Jacob's struggle with God. This must stop. We must be a church of free thinkers not apparently certain preachers. That way hypocrisy will always win.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've always said I don't need to defend God - he's more than capable of doing that himself. And I don't have the answers. I just hope I can help with the questions.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-9111051867367715754?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/9111051867367715754/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=9111051867367715754' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/9111051867367715754'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/9111051867367715754'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/free-thinkers-allowed.html' title='Free thinkers allowed'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7-v63gfn8GU/TXDPg_IljhI/AAAAAAAAADU/-4tTuVP8JKk/s72-c/banner.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-2080626664325185942</id><published>2011-03-03T19:42:00.004Z</published><updated>2011-03-03T21:48:06.531Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baptism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Disciple'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Holinesss'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Weddings Project'/><title type='text'>The church of the wrong reason.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Often thought about striking out and establishing my own church. If I did it would be the church of the wrong reason. Because I want to encourage people to come to us for whatever reason they like. Whether it is a good hymn, fantastic friends or simply something to do it really doesn't matter so long as they come.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Was talking with a vicar about baptism today (as you do). Impressed with the &lt;a href="http://www.yourchurchwedding.org/"&gt;national weddings project&lt;/a&gt;, its outward focus and its accent on the experience couples have. &lt;a href="http://www.backtochurch.co.uk/"&gt;Back to Church Sunday &lt;/a&gt;(from the same stable) is another initiative where through pushing invitation and welcome, experience is strong. Our thoughts are to replicate these ideas by making the Baptism experience for the couple and their family the best we possibly can.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Now there may be some that would want a greater level of understanding and a higher purity around the sacrament but we live in a culture that is so far away from the church that we need to get them in first. It's the old belonging before believing model.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;That's where revisiting the &lt;a href="http://www.churchofengland.org/media/1163475/gs%201816a.pdf"&gt;baptism liturgy&lt;/a&gt; to make it more accessible can only be a good thing. Whilst we need to be authentic we don't need to be exclusive and elitist. We have got to help people connect and give them a good experience. Now I know people say that worship is about God and that it isn't about what you get out but what you put in. That is correct but not as a first experience. Too many churches put that restrictive barrier in front of people which creates a block from the outset. And Jesus wasn't about barriers or restrictions. His call was to follow him, not pass an exam, not fulfil some criteria, but simply to follow. The first experience is of an interesting person who you want to be with. You follow. Then you get challenged. Then you get asked to become more holy, to be purer. That is what discipleship is. Following and then being challenged.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;We need to recapture that, work on the experience for people. Get them to want to follow and then we have something to work with. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Baptism brought me to faith. But when I said the vows 15 years ago I only vaguely understood their meaning or impact. What I did understand was the love, patience and acceptance shown by the baptism visitor and the vicar to us as a family. What they said about the faith was immaterial, what they showed us about the faith was incredibly significant. The fact they wanted us to experience the love of Jesus not the rules of the Pharisees was the best thing they did. I don't know if they knew but God knows that he has time to change people's hearts. He did with me. Our job is to help people to experience Him so that His spirit can do his work.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;Let's work on that experience and let God work on people's hearts.&lt;/span&gt; And allow and welcome those who come to us for the wrong reasons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-2080626664325185942?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/2080626664325185942/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=2080626664325185942' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2080626664325185942'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2080626664325185942'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/03/church-of-wrong-reason.html' title='The church of the wrong reason.'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-5994736601739515755</id><published>2011-02-28T20:00:00.004Z</published><updated>2011-02-28T20:41:55.768Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Disciple'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dorotheus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Beyond Belief'/><title type='text'>It's an apprenticeship not a degree!</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Idly listened to part of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006s6p6"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Radio 4's Beyond Belief&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt; this afternoon where they were discussing men and spirituality(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00yyd32/Beyond_Belief_Men_and_Spirituality"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;available on &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;iPlayer&lt;/span&gt; until March 6&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;th&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;). But one contributor's comment struck me. Almost a throwaway line he said that our faith is "an apprenticeship not a degree". I may be misrepresenting him but his argument seemed to be based around discipleship. He bemoaned churches that make people sit through pious talks and offer homilies rather than an honest, challenging faith. It was the easy answer he was against.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I've fretted about this in previous posts. The tendency to offer a banal answer to a spiritual question. It's simple. Pray more. Read the bible. Follow the commandments and all will be easy. What you're not hearing God? That's you not doing it properly - couldn't possibly be bad advice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Sunday I preach again. Winding up our Micah series where we have thought about "seeking justice, loving mercy and walking humbly with God" and reaching the part where I tell people they must walk humbly with God. Simples!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Yet I am very aware that while it is easy to go down the pray, read, follow road to be truly effective and useful I must offer more. That's where the apprenticeship model comes into play. It's the model that Jesus used - the rabbi model  - called discipleship. The thing we don't really &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;do in&lt;/span&gt; our churches is that discipleship. The drawing and teaching of the faith through action and example. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;There is an allowance for this - the number of times our liturgies talk about drawing people by example to the faith. But the models we have are based more around a formal westernised mug and jug style of teaching than &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;discipling&lt;/span&gt; and apprenticeship. (is this related to the fact that in other forms of our western life the style of apprenticeship and learning is long gone). It's another version of the instant gratification of faith - we'd rather not work and struggle at the faith if we can find an instant unthinking answer to our spiritual needs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;We must walk humbly and find others to &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;walk&lt;/span&gt; humbly with. Those who have greater wisdom and experience in the faith. People who can show us their mistakes. I am still reading &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Dorotheus&lt;/span&gt; of Gaza and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;still&lt;/span&gt; attracted to the wisdom of the desert fathers. I could not be like one but I can learn. I want to be a disciple not just a student&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-5994736601739515755?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/5994736601739515755/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=5994736601739515755' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5994736601739515755'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5994736601739515755'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/02/its-apprenticeship-not-degree.html' title='It&apos;s an apprenticeship not a degree!'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-9150502923330797500</id><published>2011-02-06T17:47:00.008Z</published><updated>2011-02-06T19:44:58.916Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PIME'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Leadership'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bob Jackson'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Neil Short'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rick Warren'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nehemiah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jean Vanier'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bishop&apos;s Growth Agenda'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Larche'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='growth'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='St James in the City'/><title type='text'>Thinking About Growth</title><content type='html'>Was at the Cathedral today doing another session of Post Initial Ministerial Education (PIME) thinking about growth. The morning session saw Rev Neil Short show us round &lt;a href="http://www.stjamesinthecity.org.uk/"&gt;St James in the City&lt;/a&gt; talking about its vision and work. He then spoke passionately about the need for effective leadership if our churches are to grow. Neil based much of his talk on Nehemiah (which I must read again as Rick Warren also quotes heavily from it). His comments on Desire, Plan and Action ring true with me. Maybe the church is not growing, not changing, not moving because we don't want it badly enough. Not to change our practices, not to work at it put the effort and make the sacrifices needed to achieve it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This rings true for me on a number of levels and for so many facets of my life and work. I want to, and do, do so much. But what do I really desire? Desire so much that I will focus my all on it. For me the numerous wants lead me down the not saying no cul de sac. I want to achieve in so many areas that it may hold me back from truly achieving in one. What is needed is focus. In work I am busy dragging the team through a marshland of projects that I am not giving myself or them space to develop a truly effective service. I think I am starting that leadership process with a clearer idea of where I want to lead the team and the process. My next challenge is to remain on the path.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Leading us Jill Duff quoted &lt;a href="http://www.larche.org/jean-vanier-founder-of-l-arche.en-gb.23.13.content.htm"&gt;Jean Vanier founder of the L'arche community&lt;/a&gt; as saying 'like rolling locomotives, fuelled by anguish, and perhaps by the fear of stopping’. So true. And so resonant of where I am at with so much.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This afternoon saw &lt;a href="http://www.stjohns-nottm.ac.uk/the-venerable-bob-jackson/"&gt;Bob Jackson&lt;/a&gt;, probably the best authority on statistics for growth outline some trends, thoughts and lessons we can draw from that. This is a crucial discipline for the church. Too many decisions are made on an anecdotal basis. We are recognising that in the Diocese are trying to address it as we support the Bishop's Growth Agenda by providing a more solid information base for parishes. We need to understand what is going on and what drives the decision making of the people we may want to connect with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It all seems like marketing theory to me...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-9150502923330797500?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/9150502923330797500/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=9150502923330797500' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/9150502923330797500'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/9150502923330797500'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/02/thinking-about-growth.html' title='Thinking About Growth'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-5350116728612750231</id><published>2011-02-05T17:31:00.005Z</published><updated>2011-02-05T18:00:27.775Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Justin Welby'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='TUC'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Liverpool Cathedral'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='mission'/><title type='text'>TUC at Liverpool Cathedral</title><content type='html'>Spent most of today at the Cathedral running the media around the visit of Tony Benn and the local TUC to protest the cuts. Some have said the Cathedral was not the place for this event but I totally support the decision. It was not party political - we stressed that clearly to them. It was political. But the church, obeying its biblical injunction to speak prophetically of God's concern for justice for the poor, is necessarily political. I cannot speak more eloquently than the Dean, Justin Welby&lt;a href="http://www.liverpoolcathedral.org.uk/files/TUC%20Merseyside%20at%20Liverpool%20Cathedral%202011.pdf"&gt; &lt;/a&gt;who explained the &lt;a href="http://www.liverpoolcathedral.org.uk/files/TUC%20Merseyside%20at%20Liverpool%20Cathedral%202011.pdf"&gt;reasoning in his address to the event&lt;/a&gt;. The Cathedral is, and always should be, a place for the people to bring their concerns to God. This was a way of doing that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But that's not the point of this reflection.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While there I was struck be the similarity between this and a number of church events I have been too. It was very much a case of preaching to the converted. The various speakers knew the buttons to press to get the applause. Strong on rhetoric low on practical solutions it presented some glib truisms. There is an alternative (what?). We just have to resist and fight the cuts and then offer what? I am in sympathy with the ideals but it didn't offer me a way that I felt would make a difference. Overall they were fine words but I got a sense of lets get excited, hear the stirring speech and then go back to routine. A nice day out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And sometimes when the church talks about doing mission I have a similar sense and feeling. It is easy to stand at an event and stir the faithful. To exhort around the great commission, the fresh expression and the we must do something more. But where does this leave us?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Its the great difficulty. And as a preacher my biggest concern. We can offer the finest biblically driven, God inspired words. But words are not enough and its how we go beyond them. Of course, as ever, I have the question. The answer eludes.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-5350116728612750231?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/5350116728612750231/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=5350116728612750231' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5350116728612750231'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5350116728612750231'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/02/tuc-at-liverpool-cathedral.html' title='TUC at Liverpool Cathedral'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-3373563925814858115</id><published>2011-01-30T19:35:00.004Z</published><updated>2011-01-30T20:14:37.472Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Holy Spirt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='9.45 Service'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Heart of Worship'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eugene Peterson'/><title type='text'>Spirit Lives.... (Continued but not concluded)</title><content type='html'>Interesting talk at St James in the City tonight. They're four weeks into a series on the Holy Spirit and were considering what it meant to be full of the Spirit and how you can be filled with the Spirit. To my mind a version of the discussion I've been having about working in the power of the Spirit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The speakers conclusion? That we need to ask, pray and worship. Nothing to disagree with there. Particularly the asking part. It is something that we Christians need to get better at - asking. Asking for direction; asking for help; asking for God's power; asking for the spirit to be part of our lives. "ask and it shall be given unto you" But of course that is still potentially simplistic in outlook. It is fine if we feel that we have received the Spirit. But what if we don't feel anything? Have we failed as Christians, failed in our worship or failed to understand what is going on in our lives&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or is it a matter of expectation? We think that if the spirit touches us we should be transformed instantly. That is doesn't take working at. That may happen for some but not for me. That's why I like the image of Jacob wrestling with God. For me this whole journey is a struggle, a wrestle, an attempt to understand what is going on and what is the true nature if any relationship with God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my talk this morning about getting back to the heart of worship I quoted the Message translation John 4:25 "Your worship must engage your spirit in the pursuit of truth."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For me the key words in that are engage, spirit and pursuit. We must engage fully with sincere hearts. Too often we we don't. And if we don't then we are not creating the conditions for the spirit to grow within us. But more than that we must remember it is a pursuit. We do not get quick answers and solutions. As disciples we pursue the truth and we must continue to work towards a greater understanding of God's rule in our lives.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-3373563925814858115?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/3373563925814858115/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=3373563925814858115' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3373563925814858115'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3373563925814858115'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/01/spirit-lives-continued-but-not.html' title='Spirit Lives.... (Continued but not concluded)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-172652605073065774</id><published>2011-01-29T19:45:00.004Z</published><updated>2011-01-29T20:33:48.801Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Casting Crowns'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lifesong'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Heart of Worship'/><title type='text'>Lifesong</title><content type='html'>Preaching tomorrow on our series on the Heart of Worship. Over five weeks we have been trying to remind ourselves that worship is more than church. More than songs. More than liturgy. More than Sunday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It doesn't require sacred space but sacred hearts. For me this song says a lot about the attitude we should have.  Enjoy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe class="youtube-player" title="YouTube video player" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/vaia32TsPq0" frameborder="0" width="480" height="390" type="text/html"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-172652605073065774?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/172652605073065774/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=172652605073065774' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/172652605073065774'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/172652605073065774'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/01/lifesong.html' title='Lifesong'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/vaia32TsPq0/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-5121634101657437893</id><published>2011-01-17T22:11:00.003Z</published><updated>2011-01-29T19:44:36.678Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nick Cave'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evil'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Judgement'/><title type='text'>As I Sat Sadly by Her Side</title><content type='html'>A seeming irony of my life is that I seem to like so much music that seems to run contrary to my faith. But the artists who challenge us make us stronger. &lt;a href="http://www.nickcaveandthebadseeds.com/home"&gt;Nick Cave&lt;/a&gt; is someone who performs deep &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;brooding&lt;/span&gt; articulate rock music with references to classical literature and beyond. As I Sat Sadly by Her Side from the album &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_More_Shall_We_Part"&gt;No More Shall We Part&lt;/a&gt; is an enigmatic and harsh song that seems to be a discussion about the morality of the church, judgement and I see it as the difference between how God may see the world and our viewpoint.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"God has given you but one heart&lt;br /&gt;You are not a home for the hearts of your brothers&lt;br /&gt;And God does not care for your benevolence&lt;br /&gt;Anymore than he cares for the lack of it in others&lt;br /&gt;Nor does he care for you to sit&lt;br /&gt;At windows in judgment of the world He created&lt;br /&gt;While sorrows pile up around you&lt;br /&gt;Ugly, useless and over inflated"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Enjoy (or not) and discuss&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="385" width="640"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/AeTYL_cKGyI?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_GB"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/AeTYL_cKGyI?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_GB" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;there's a lot of God in Nick Cave...&lt;/em&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-5121634101657437893?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/5121634101657437893/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=5121634101657437893' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5121634101657437893'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5121634101657437893'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/01/as-i-sat-sadly-by-her-side.html' title='As I Sat Sadly by Her Side'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-3941023520163479882</id><published>2011-01-15T17:54:00.006Z</published><updated>2011-01-17T13:31:24.113Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arcade Fire'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Family life'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church of England'/><title type='text'>Singing Hallelujah with the fear in your heart</title><content type='html'>Brilliant song. Brilliant band. There is a raw emotion to the singing which I have always liked but what struck me when I first heard &lt;a href="http://www.arcadefire.com/"&gt;Arcade Fire's &lt;/a&gt;Intervention was it's cynicism about the church and the damage that it can do to people working for it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Been working for the church&lt;br /&gt;While your life falls apart&lt;br /&gt;Singing hallelujah with the fear in your heart&lt;br /&gt;Every spark of friendship and love&lt;br /&gt;Will die without a home"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's not necessarily an indictment of the church or anti religion. One fan said its broad sweep could apply to those heavily involved in any activity and the dangers of obsessive working for any cause. But it chimed with me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="385" width="480"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/zvqPzMHHy-U?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_GB"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/zvqPzMHHy-U?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_GB" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;PS One weekend, three posts. Am overdoing it&lt;/em&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-3941023520163479882?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/3941023520163479882/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=3941023520163479882' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3941023520163479882'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3941023520163479882'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/01/singing-hallelujah-with-fear-in-your.html' title='Singing Hallelujah with the fear in your heart'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-2350681218079354243</id><published>2011-01-15T14:28:00.004Z</published><updated>2011-01-15T16:54:34.559Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='graveyards'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Death'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Funeral'/><title type='text'>Churchyards and the way we grieve</title><content type='html'>Caught part of a discussion on BBC Breakfast this morning between a priest and a sociologist. The issue was the proliferation of fake flowers, toys and other paraphernalia in churchyards today. Presumably &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/jan/12/cemetery-ban-for-fake-flowers"&gt;linked to this story in the Guardian&lt;/a&gt; but the topic is a hardy &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;perennial&lt;/span&gt; for your parish vicar.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my usual liberal evangelical do &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;gooding&lt;/span&gt; type of way I can see both sides to the argument but it was interesting to yet again see comments around personal choice being brought to the fore. The thrust seemed to be if I choose to remember/grieve my relative with fake flowers, toys or whatever then nobody should be allowed to take that from me. And pity the person that tries. Which in today's individualistic society seems to be an acceptable norm although it clearly presents the issue for incumbents of how to maintain a churchyard acceptable to all. And I have dealt with a couple of local media stories on this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But again I am drawn more and more to the notion that the deeper problem is one around how we are confronting grief and the inevitability of death and loss. Everyone needs to be able to have the time and space to grieve and recover from the loss of a loved one in their own way but I worry that some ways are not &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;helpful&lt;/span&gt; for individuals. This &lt;a href="http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2010/12/first-funeral.html"&gt;was the theme of my post on the first funeral I took &lt;/a&gt;and I will keep returning to this because it is important. The priest this morning &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;spoke&lt;/span&gt; of an appropriate time to manage the expectations of what people can put on graves. Maybe we need to manage people's expectations of death!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;By the way I have realised I have been obsessed with death for many years. Not sure what that says about me...&lt;/em&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-2350681218079354243?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/2350681218079354243/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=2350681218079354243' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2350681218079354243'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2350681218079354243'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/01/churchyards-and-way-we-grieve.html' title='Churchyards and the way we grieve'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-8452933565525172632</id><published>2011-01-15T10:10:00.006Z</published><updated>2011-01-15T13:59:15.946Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Holy Spirt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Holinesss'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowan Williams'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='9.45 Service'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eugene Peterson'/><title type='text'>Avoiding the question</title><content type='html'>At the end of my last post I said "In 2011 let us all live in the power of that Spirit rather than our own frailties." To which the lovely Anastasia agreed and said how?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's terrible when people challenge you as it makes you think. But that type of challenge also makes you realise how easy it is as a preacher and teacher of the faith to throw out a couple of quick phrases and homilies without explanation and support and leave people hanging. I often wonder if this is because we haven't got the answers but feel that this is the right thing to say, the right advice to give, the scriptural truth. But don't question me because I am the preacher. As an aside my Dad has often said he does not want to be told what to do with his life. That has always been his perception of the Christian preacher. And therefore has been something I have wanted to avoid.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This, has been a constant background thought that has run through my ministry since training for readership. Am I teaching people or simply working it out for myself as I going along - and letting others in on the conversation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course I'm avoiding the actual question. And we know why. I don't know the answer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My initial reflection is this. And again there is a degree of the obvious in this. But obvious is good. The spirit is alive and active and wants to have a relationship with him. It is how we create the conditions in out lives to enable that to happen. So the job of the priest is to help people develop that relationship. Eugene Peterson says the role of the pastor is to teach the people to pray. That is a key part of it. But it is about changing our mindset and ethics (as well as exploring scripture in a less superficial way than we often do in our teaching and sermons). I believe that is the way we are developing in the 9:45 service. It is early days but it is work in progress.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; But too much of what we do in general is one of routine or politics - either local church or the wider communion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We all have to find the way to allow God into our lives and for me the struggle is between worldliness and holiness. I have been reading the wisdom of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorotheus_of_Gaza"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Dorotheus&lt;/span&gt; of Gaza&lt;/a&gt; in the book that Anastasia and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Dimitrios&lt;/span&gt; gave us. It is challenging stuff and I'm not sure I can live up to it. But it echoes the thoughts I had when I read &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silence-Honey-Cakes-Wisdom-Desert/dp/0745951708"&gt;Rowan Williams' Silence and Honey Cakes.&lt;/a&gt; There is much in this wisdom and much about this lifestyle that should enable us to be with God. But I am not sure I can live up to it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Further reflections will come....&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-8452933565525172632?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/8452933565525172632/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=8452933565525172632' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8452933565525172632'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/8452933565525172632'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/01/avoiding-question.html' title='Avoiding the question'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-9218044109169790797</id><published>2011-01-02T17:08:00.006Z</published><updated>2011-01-02T18:07:37.206Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Paul'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Holy Spirt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Waterboys'/><title type='text'>The Spirit Lives</title><content type='html'>In a Christmas/New Year update of cassettes to &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;CDs&lt;/span&gt; I have reacquainted myself with the delights of &lt;a href="http://www.mikescottwaterboys.com/"&gt;the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Waterboys&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, sheer eighties brilliance. Now, one of the many things I have meant to blog about during the past year has been how many bands connect spiritually. Not in an orthodox Christian way - unfortunately it seems most of the bands/artists I like and admire are resolutely atheistic. But many are seeking some for of truth (it makes them artists after all).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a very simple yet lyrically brilliant song.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Man gets tired&lt;br /&gt;Spirit don't&lt;br /&gt;Man surrenders&lt;br /&gt;Spirit won't&lt;br /&gt;Man crawls&lt;br /&gt;Spirit flies&lt;br /&gt;Spirit lives when man dies&lt;br /&gt;Man seems&lt;br /&gt;Spirit is&lt;br /&gt;Man dreams&lt;br /&gt;The spirit lives&lt;br /&gt;Man is tethered&lt;br /&gt;Spirit is free&lt;br /&gt;What spirit is&lt;br /&gt;man can be&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="385" width="480"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/OyDnvT27rus?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_GB"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/OyDnvT27rus?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_GB" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think it is Paul who witters that we can have access to the strength that God used to raise Jesus from the dead. That is the "spirit that lives, the spirit that man can be". In 2011 let us all live in the power of that Spirit rather than our own frailties.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-9218044109169790797?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/9218044109169790797/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=9218044109169790797' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/9218044109169790797'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/9218044109169790797'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2011/01/spirit-can-live.html' title='The Spirit Lives'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-299744156288697762</id><published>2010-12-31T19:22:00.002Z</published><updated>2010-12-31T19:37:52.780Z</updated><title type='text'>A resolution</title><content type='html'>It really is no use and it probably won't work but I do want to work on keeping this up to date. Clearly the discipline has been &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;erratically&lt;/span&gt; maintained over 2010 - a simple look at the posts &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;tells &lt;/span&gt;me that - but when I have written I have found it helpful for myself. To get my thoughts in order (and get me away from Bejewelled and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Zuma&lt;/span&gt; Blitz). And to reflect in a way that the blessed learning journals of Reader and Ordination training never managed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I undertake to post at least once a week. To reflect on the key events that continue to form me. To think about what the books I am reading are telling me (and I am trying to complete one a month). And mainly to work it through. What is God saying to me. How I should  be articulating God's word to the people in the situations I meet.  And how can I help &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;myself&lt;/span&gt; and others grow in love and faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's a resolution. It may be broken but it's sincerely meant. I pray for a good 2011 for one and all.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-299744156288697762?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/299744156288697762/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=299744156288697762' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/299744156288697762'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/299744156288697762'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2010/12/resolution.html' title='A resolution'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-2651405569695086179</id><published>2010-12-30T13:23:00.003Z</published><updated>2010-12-30T14:04:38.213Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Death'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tom Wright'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Funeral'/><title type='text'>First funeral</title><content type='html'>It's neither a profound nor probably original thought but having conducted my first funeral today I am struck by three notions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first is how my experience of funerals and death is largely determined by the media portrayal of these events. Particularly through soaps and drama. Although it went as well as can be expected on these &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;occasions&lt;/span&gt; I came away very aware that I have limited experience of funerals having not attended many. This meant I felt my behaviour, particularly at the graveside (which was the first time I have ever done that), was preconditioned by a notion I have &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;acquired&lt;/span&gt; from the television. However, the support from our Curate, Verger and the Undertakers was excellent. In fact I feel total respect for the undertaker who seemed to be able to mix professionalism, command and control with a &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;sympathetic&lt;/span&gt;, compassionate tone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which in a way leads to the second reflection. This is how (and this I know is more eloquently discussed by others - notably I think by Tom Wright in "Surprised by Hope") we are losing a language for death and the ability to talk frankly about the topic we are confronting. I was guilty of it myself  - feeling &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;uncomfortable&lt;/span&gt; about introducing it as a funeral. Isn't nicer to talk about thanksgiving for &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;some one's&lt;/span&gt; life. Feels they haven't quite died. Which is probably where the emotion in the poem he is in the next room (or whatever it is) comes from. Yet while that, and the language of he is asleep etc may offer temporary comfort I wonder if it really helps grief. Death is a terrifying notion for many but if we name the terror we start to confront it. And if we confront &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;death&lt;/span&gt; properly then will that make it easier to bring a proper &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;understanding&lt;/span&gt; of God, our relationship with Him and how we can gain eternal life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But ultimately, and by way of the third reflection, I was acutely aware of the pastoral need to get it right for the family. It may have been my first funeral but I will lead others. This was the one and only time to bury their loved one. The one chance to remember him and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;publicly&lt;/span&gt; acknowledge his life. The one time to say goodbye and commit him to God. Not a moment to mess things up, be flippant or &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;Say&lt;/span&gt; and do the wrong thing. And boy did that make me nervous.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It went well and was appreciated. Whether they felt or understood God during the service I don't know but I pray that his spirit of comfort surrounds all who grieve.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-2651405569695086179?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/2651405569695086179/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=2651405569695086179' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2651405569695086179'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2651405569695086179'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2010/12/first-funeral.html' title='First funeral'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-7241432203939608383</id><published>2010-11-16T13:40:00.001Z</published><updated>2010-11-16T13:42:26.526Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gospel; Media;'/><title type='text'>Engaging with the media (my frontpiece for a cycle of prayer)</title><content type='html'>&lt;em&gt;One of the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;privileges&lt;/span&gt; (?) of the Media Manager role is to write a &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;frontpiece&lt;/span&gt; for our cycle of prayer every now and then. This is my contribution for February.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When ordained Deacon last July the call to proclaim the Gospel as one of the heralds of Christ’s Kingdom resonated deeply. For me, part of that need to proclaim the Good News can be taken literally as I engage with the media.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Engaging with the media is a challenging, complicated business. The traditional media can reduce complex issues to simplified statements and worn out arguments. In the new social, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;internet&lt;/span&gt; based media the ability for ideas to be transmitted, commented on, distorted and argued about instantaneously demands new skills and new ideas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It all results in the noise of competing ideologies, agendas and dogmas, shouting for attention and vying to be heard.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As we prayerfully consider our parish and individual response to the Bishop’s Growth Agenda we need to consider how we can effectively communicate our Gospel truth. We are called to share the Good News of the kingdom and we must do this using every means possible. It is messy and complicated but I believe that is where Jesus was and is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We must not shy away from this engagement but must continually pray that through the noise of today’s media the still small voice of God shines through.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-7241432203939608383?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/7241432203939608383/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=7241432203939608383' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7241432203939608383'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7241432203939608383'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2010/11/engaging-with-media-my-frontpiece-for.html' title='Engaging with the media (my frontpiece for a cycle of prayer)'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-3083128366248068535</id><published>2010-11-14T16:29:00.002Z</published><updated>2010-11-14T17:55:34.374Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Remembrance Sunday'/><title type='text'>Remembrance Sunday</title><content type='html'>Observed Ormskirk's Remembrance Sunday today. I have a longstanding difficulty with the notion of Remembrance Sunday. The tone of the remembrance works against some of my more pacifistic ideals and I get concerned about what appears to be a jingoistic feel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I also recall many years as a cub and scout being dragged to a parade service in the freezing rain and no allowance for a coat. But the worst of it was having no sense of what I was supposed to be remembering. Everything seemed so irrelevant to me and there was always a troubling sense that we were indulging in a jaundiced view of history. And for many years I have avoided Remembrance for that very reason.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is not to deny the loss of life and the real sense of grief that many feel. Indeed, maybe my view would be different if I had a more personal connection with the wars. My real concern, probably politically driven and inspired by historical studies, was the way in which the sacrifice 0f the many came about through the failings of the political few. I had a real notion that this sacrifice is used to prevent honest questions being asked by and of our political masters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I still have misgivings but also know that as a church minister and servant of God I am not there to pursue my agenda but to reflect what God would want and to show his love for all creation. Hence my willingness to be involved in Lathom a couple of year's ago and my involvement today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have reconciled my misgivings into a notion that while I disagree with the politics the humanity is paramount. To follow the command to love your neighbours (and indeed your enemies) means we must people before politics. For it is people that paid the price.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-3083128366248068535?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/3083128366248068535/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=3083128366248068535' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3083128366248068535'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3083128366248068535'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2010/11/remembrance-sunday.html' title='Remembrance Sunday'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-7386600237001535093</id><published>2010-11-13T09:24:00.006Z</published><updated>2010-11-13T10:05:10.272Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible Study'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Alpha'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Romans'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eugene Peterson'/><title type='text'>Bible Study</title><content type='html'>At the end of a busy week including an &lt;a href="http://www.ormskirk-ce.lancsngfl.ac.uk/"&gt;assembly&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://uk.alpha.org/"&gt;Alpha &lt;/a&gt;talk I spent a great evening with students at Edge Hill University studying Romans. It's challenging stuff looking at sin and freedom, law and grace trying to understand how this relates to our lives today. But it's important. Saying that we live under Christ is one thing, doing it is far more difficult. And the main guidance we have is the Bible. That is why I am keen on the teaching series we started during the 9:45 service.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Although I was a bit off message at Alpha declaring I don't read the Bible daily. I am not ashamed of this although some may be think it's shocking but we have to make this achievable. I am deeply suspicious of the read the bible in a year type programmes because for me they reduce the read to a tick box &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;exercise&lt;/span&gt;. I've read it but have I learnt from it. Have I engaged with it. Have I allowed myself to be inspired by it.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am deeply inspired by &lt;a href="http://www.eugenepetersononline.com/"&gt;Eugene Peterson's &lt;/a&gt; "&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eat-This-Book-Conversation-Spiritual/dp/0340954892/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1289640946&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;Eat this Book"&lt;/a&gt; - a study in the spiritual reading of the Bible. Taking his cue from &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+10:9&amp;amp;version=NIV"&gt;Revelation 10:9&lt;/a&gt; and John's vision where he says "So I went to the angel and asked him to give me the little scroll. He said to me, “Take it and eat it. It will turn your stomach sour, but ‘in your mouth it will be as sweet as honey", Peterson discusses how we should devour the biblical words.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This, added to one of my favourite images in the Old Testament of Jacob wrestling God, sums up how I feel about our engagement with the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It does contain the truth but we have to discern it. We have to chew it over, devour it, digest it, gnaw away at it if we are to get there. Nobody said it was easy. But, to switch metaphor, if we wrestle with the text then our spiritual lives will become all the richer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So Eat the Book. Pray with it, relish it, work with it and let it, and God, work with you.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-7386600237001535093?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/7386600237001535093/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=7386600237001535093' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7386600237001535093'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7386600237001535093'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2010/11/bible-study.html' title='Bible Study'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-3559786383957692186</id><published>2010-11-07T20:50:00.004Z</published><updated>2010-11-07T22:00:47.748Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PIME'/><title type='text'>What is church?</title><content type='html'>A series of random thoughts and themes which I must return to at some point. These were sparked by the various conversations on today's &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;PIME&lt;/span&gt;  course. And linked to the Bishop's Growth Agenda.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What makes a growing church? Our discussion from &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%202:42-47&amp;amp;version=NIV"&gt;Acts 2: 42-47&lt;/a&gt; saw us reflecting on the fact there was a quality, authentic experience which led onto growth. (although their is a potential hamper to that when we look at the notion that "the Lord added daily to their number").&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The quality experience factor though is something I believe highly significant. I equate this to two recent trips to the theatre that I have made. (&lt;a href="http://www.daraobriain.com/"&gt;Dara &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;O'Briain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.southporttheatre.org.uk/index.asp?VenueID=109"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Southport&lt;/span&gt; Theatre&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.doctorwholive.com/"&gt;Dr Who Live&lt;/a&gt; at the &lt;a href="http://www.echoarena.com/"&gt;ECHO Arena&lt;/a&gt;). Both were packed and both were &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;occasions&lt;/span&gt; where there was a clear expectation (that we will have a good time), which was matched by reality. Now this experience is helped by the fact that you don't have to make a regular commitment to either. One visit and its done. But if the experience is good you want to go again - we have been to &lt;a href="http://www.rossnoble.co.uk/"&gt;Ross Noble&lt;/a&gt; several times. And let's face it that's the aim of either artist or venue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So the trip to the ECHO Arena was strong in particular. From the guys on the car park barrier to the people checking tickets, selling refreshments or showing us to our seat and back to the car park exit we were treated well. And that make us feel positive about going again. Can we say the same about our churches?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am convinced that the theatre model gives us something to think about in growing our church. And linked to it the model of rock bands growing a &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;fan base&lt;/span&gt;. It's another in a long line of research projects I want to look at in the future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bit other questions arise. Why doesn't Christ talk about church? Did he really intend for us to create the structures we have. What is church for? If it is about making Christ known then shouldn't we be looking at communicating the message into the community rather than a building based faith. Christ was about relationship and that relationship was in the field as it were. So why not create the event, the theatre, the band, the comedy and not worry about the venue it is in? But then &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;what&lt;/span&gt; does that say about our mission to the poor and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;oppressed&lt;/span&gt;. Is an event led faith a sincere one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Upshot? Well my head is searching for a model that works in church and I sincerely believe that that may be one (the Costa; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;Tesco&lt;/span&gt; or McDonald's model is another one to explore at another time).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But let's think back to "the Lord added daily to their number". This could be seen by some as being a wait for the Holy Spirit to move in a how do you make God laugh tell him your plans type of thing. But we should seriously consider, and continue to ponder the notion that God works in the plans and the secular models if only we seek him there. Christ is in all things and all things were created for him (and that includes the secular). So the Lord could add daily to our number through the plans we make and the strategies we take.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-3559786383957692186?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/3559786383957692186/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=3559786383957692186' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3559786383957692186'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3559786383957692186'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2010/11/what-is-church.html' title='What is church?'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-6663049463041230211</id><published>2010-11-07T20:08:00.004Z</published><updated>2010-11-08T15:06:59.556Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='James; Bishop Richard'/><title type='text'>Reflecting on James</title><content type='html'>So we have spent 4 weeks looking at the letter of James as the 9:45 at &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;OPC&lt;/span&gt; works on its second series of themed teaching. For me it has been a challenging experience. But worthwhile. We started to confront some of the real issues that touch people - suffering, healing, how we are in relationship with others, how we put our faith into action.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At our Post Initial Ministerial Education course today Bishop Richard talked about (as he has did on Radio &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Merseyside&lt;/span&gt;) about the danger that we &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;infantilise&lt;/span&gt; people in church today. Ever so humbly I agree. He spoke about the fact that we have pews and pews of people unwilling or unable to share their faith. I agree and fear this is very often down to the way we teach.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's not that we can't teach the faith but very often we go about it in the wrong way. The maxim of comforting the challenged is very often used to prevent us from challenging people. So we shy away from talking about life and death issues in case &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;there&lt;/span&gt; are people in the pews who are suffering. But that's what we need to do. Those are the issues that people outside the church confront us about. The "if there is a God then why..." type questions. So we need to talk in a mature adult way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And when we do we can gain great insights. Those who actually are suffering in whatever way can teach us a great deal about that (and also how we see God in it). By being open, realistic and direct we can make real progress for people on their faith journey. Jesus challenged, Jesus confronted and Jesus made it clear that the journey was tough. We can't turn away from that but we can better teach people how to talk realistically about these things. That will then help people answer the big questions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We're starting that journey with James and I'm sure there are some churches that are further down that journey for us. I pray it may continue.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-6663049463041230211?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/6663049463041230211/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=6663049463041230211' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6663049463041230211'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6663049463041230211'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2010/11/reflectiing-on-james.html' title='Reflecting on James'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-2524180798846993053</id><published>2010-10-02T16:13:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2010-10-02T17:09:39.803+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Marketing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='God'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='brands'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Russell Brand'/><title type='text'>Russell Brand on Newsnight</title><content type='html'>Thanks to Martin, I was made aware of the fascinating interview between Jeremy Paxman and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Brand"&gt;Russell Brand&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/v3fd0/"&gt;Newsnight &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have never been able to make my mind up about Brand. He can be crude but is clearly erudite and (in some way) well read. Then there are the controversies and he does blur the lines when he aims to justify his own behaviour and actions. His comparison between&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Brand_Show_prank_telephone_calls_row"&gt; Sachsgate&lt;/a&gt; and his arrest for "&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Brand#Arrest"&gt;defending" Katy Perry against the very unwanted paparazzi attention is flawed in some areas of its logic.&lt;/a&gt; But his analysis of the media and their values shows a man keen to reflect.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what interested me most is his comments about consumerism and the pursuit of fame and celebrity and the hollowness of this. He does leave Paxman speechless with his declaration of a belief in God and the idea that if we"Popularize through the techniques of branding and consumerism a different idea and a different narrative then perhaps the word might change".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have commented before on how I feel that the consumer brands have taken Christian values and ideals of community and subverted them to sell product. What Russell Brand is saying, and I agree, is that we can turn the tables (a biblical image comes to mind there) and use the sophisticated techniques to sell a better world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The church has to grasp this. We may say, and it may be right, that God, Jesus is not a brand. But the way we pursue him, the church is. We need to sell that notion better. Russell Brand is happy to pray, meditate and declare a faith. But get him to church? I don't think so. Why? I suppose he finds his spiritual needs elsewhere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Church is the place to be. But we need to sell it better. We must have people leaving a service feeling their lives have changed, or could be changed for the better. That they have been touched by God and can, through his Spirit,touch others and sell them the notion that the world can be changed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And it would be great to use brands, and Brand himself, to do that!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-2524180798846993053?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/2524180798846993053/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=2524180798846993053' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2524180798846993053'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/2524180798846993053'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2010/10/russell-brand-on-newsnight.html' title='Russell Brand on Newsnight'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-3074573564809321513</id><published>2010-09-18T13:34:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2010-09-18T13:55:46.472+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Media'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pope'/><title type='text'>I'm glad the Pope has visited</title><content type='html'>I've only been watching the coverage in part but think that he has had &lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11347073"&gt;useful things to say&lt;/a&gt;. It may not be anything new to say that some want the religious voice silenced but the platform that the Pope has to say it means that there is wide coverage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, while it is true that there is an attempt in some quarters to keep our views out of the media, I have been surprised at the level of demand I have had for Bishop James to speak on a number of issues. Take the request from the Politics Show for a message to the Liberal Democrat conference. This shows a clear respect for the religious voice to be heard. And we must keep working to make sure we engage at all times and in all ways with every bit of the media we can.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-3074573564809321513?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/3074573564809321513/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=3074573564809321513' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3074573564809321513'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/3074573564809321513'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2010/09/im-glad-pope-has-visited.html' title='I&apos;m glad the Pope has visited'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-7673309982040629158</id><published>2010-09-11T05:48:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2010-09-11T07:57:18.272+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ten Commandments'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tabloids'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Moral Code'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Media'/><title type='text'>I don't want to live by the tabloid's morals</title><content type='html'>The thing about tabloid exposes that really bothers me is the way they seem to act as lawmaker, investigator, prosecutor, judge, jury and to a certain extent hangman. There seems to be a sense in which they decree the moral code we should all live by and then judge people by the standards they set.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So while I am not condoning the footballer's indiscretions, the cricketer's bribe or the politicians expenses the point is that in amongst all of this the papers are deciding where the line is drawn. And that leads to the wider danger. If we allow that tabloids to be the arbiters of our moral standards then we narrow the agenda. The focus on laying before the world the sexual sin puts on a wider stage what should really be between the couples and God. But the tabloid mentality brings that onto a wider platform that ignores any scope for restoration. Live by the tabloid rules. Play the game the way they have framed it or be attacked for it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The problem to me is then not about the right or wrongs of the behaviour but that increasingly the moral code is used to be held against people. It was well rumoured before the world cup that the tabloids had stories on three or four players. And we wonder why they may have been distracted. That could reveal the heart of the matter, where the interest lies. Not in exposing or correcting moral behaviour. Not in freeing people to live as God intended. But in having a weapon to use against people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And that's why we need a different, more substantial way of deciding the moral code. Which of course we do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We were reflecting on the begining of 1 Kings at morning prayer in the week. In it is David's charge to Solomon&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I am about to go the way of all the earth," he said. "So be strong, show yourself a man, and observe what the LORD your God requires: Walk in his ways, and keep his decrees and commands, his laws and requirements, as written in the Law of Moses, so that you may prosper in all you do and wherever you go, and that the LORD may keep his promise to me: 'If your descendants watch how they live, and if they walk faithfully before me with all their heart and soul, you will never fail to have a man on the throne of Israel.' "&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is the Law we have been given. The code I want to live by. The freeing, wholesome God given law that isn't there to be a weapon against us, to make us skulk and hide in corners. The law that frees us to live our lives to the full.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-7673309982040629158?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/7673309982040629158/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=7673309982040629158' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7673309982040629158'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/7673309982040629158'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2010/09/i-dont-want-to-live-by-tabloids-morals.html' title='I don&apos;t want to live by the tabloid&apos;s morals'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-6487198302127729424</id><published>2010-09-04T08:33:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2010-09-04T09:09:24.376+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bishop James'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Marketing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ormskirk Parish Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='growth'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='mission'/><title type='text'>Musing on growth</title><content type='html'>Parishes and deaneries across the Diocese have been challenged by Bishop James to look at three questions on growth. How do we kindle our love for God; How do we serve our community and how do we grow in numbers. &lt;a href="http://www.liverpool.anglican.org/index.php?p=922"&gt;The questions were contained in the Bishop's presidential address to Synod in November&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In it he talks about us trying to retain the dynamic of the church in Acts which "day by day" grew in number. This we are coming to talk about as the growth agenda and is of major importance for us as a church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know this is a difficult area. The numbers game sits badly for some against kingdom theologies and a theology of presence. But as the Bishop says numbers are important. We face many challenges ahead but if we don't grow and have more people coming to church then we will magnify our problems. And we will face difficult decisions. Without growth we cannot maintain the heritage buildings we occupy. Without growth we cannot sustain ourselves. Then we will need to shut more church buildings or turn ourselves into living tourism attractions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is not just about money though. we are commission to reach people, make them disciples and by focussing on growth and strategies for growth to make this happen. That, for me personally, is what the growth agenda is about. It is where my marketing background and faith collide. We must put together plans for growth. Plans of how to reach people and retain them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We seem to shy away from the secular disciplines in the church world. To do the advertising marketing thing is somehow ungodly. But. If God created all things he created and is in the secular disciplines. So surely let's use them. If church was a plc it would start to focus all its process on growing the business. That's what we should do. It doesn't exclude the pastoral, presence stuff because after all  - if we assume we working in the caring market - that is our unique selling point set against other carers. But it does mean a more stringent focus on bringing people in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And provided we do it with God. In prayer to him and with the guidance of his spirit then I don't see anything wrong. (may relfect more later)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the meantime this is my draft of Ormskirk Parish Church's response.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In reviewing Ormskirk Parish Church’s approach and answering the Bishops’ questions we have considered them a cyclical model for growth and mission. We believe we can only grow if we help our congregations kindle their love for God. By loving God we can then learn to serve our community, through serving the community others will see the church as a place that has worth for them and growth follows.  With growth come people who need their love of God kindled. This philosophy underlies our approach and activities. It is not clear cut or straightforward but shows a pattern to work towards.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kindling our love for God&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To kindle our love means a better understanding and deeper spirituality. So we:-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are carrying out a  major review and reorganisation of our 9:45 am service looking at worship, teaching and discussion groups&lt;br /&gt;Developing a preparation course for Communion in C of E school years 5 and 6&lt;br /&gt;Launching a joint Newborough, Westhead Ormskirk and Lathom run Alpha course.&lt;br /&gt;Encourage bible study and discussion groups within the church&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Serving our Community&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We have many projects serving our different communities in different ways including:-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our newly appointed Youth Worker, is working with other C of E churches &amp;amp; Ecumenical partners to develop youth provision in the area. Much of her work will be inside the local school developing groups for the children and young people to give them access to spiritual opportunities.&lt;br /&gt;A Street Pastor project with Ecumenical partners on Friday and Saturday nights.&lt;br /&gt;Our Knit &amp;amp; Nattergroup, developing their links with Hospital and Aid organisations.&lt;br /&gt;The “Hope Project”, Coffee Stop and Soup Stop will continue to develop links with the community and New Church House users&lt;br /&gt;Half term Family Film afternoons to promote link with local school children and their families.&lt;br /&gt;Freshers week at Edge Hill University as we look to grow the work at the university.&lt;br /&gt;Continuing our successful bi-annual outreach to the whole community ‘Park Praise.’ A free Christian fun day planned with Churches Together in Ormskirk&lt;br /&gt;Being creative with the use of our historic buildings, and the potential for mission and promoting them for venues eg Art exhibitions etc.&lt;br /&gt;NCH used 7 days / week for Community Use, develop mission opportunities&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Growing Numbers&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While most of how we serve the community has potential to lead to growth we are also looking at specific ways to grow. These include&lt;br /&gt;Hosting and encouraging church members to attend Mission Shaped Introduction Course and pursuing the opportunities arising from it. This should help us build on our successful fresh expression “Thank God It’s Friday”&lt;br /&gt;Developing links with Baptism families and Tiddlers groups with follow up parties, Teddy Bears picnic &amp;amp; Christmas party.&lt;br /&gt;Involvement in the Wedding’s Project, Back to Church Sunday and other national campaigns&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-6487198302127729424?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/6487198302127729424/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=6487198302127729424' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6487198302127729424'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/6487198302127729424'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2010/09/musing-on-growth.html' title='Musing on growth'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-9140052780151309385</id><published>2010-08-22T15:39:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2010-08-22T17:24:01.774+01:00</updated><title type='text'>At Southport Flower Show</title><content type='html'>Went to the &lt;a href="http://www.southportflowershow.co.uk/"&gt;Southport Flower Show&lt;/a&gt; to take part in &lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p001d7cb"&gt;BBC Radio Merseyside's Daybreak Show with Wayne Clarke&lt;/a&gt; this morning. Wayne was broadcasting from Southport as this is the second year that churches in the area have had a public act of worship on the Sunday morning of the annual flower show.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was there to make sure that Wayne had no gaps in his guests and be in a stand in if needed (which fortunately I wasn't). I also was delivering a reflection during the act of worship. It is an odd feeling speaking into the ether. The five of us around a microphone have no idea if anything is listening and our words are being heard across the region. But as Wayne says it's the biggest pulpit we can get so why not use it to get the message out widely. For me any means we can get to spread the word as far and as wide as possible is too be encouraged.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For a waffler it is a different art. For as well as trying to make sense we have a strict time limit - I had to cut myslef short - but it is a discipline all preachers should subject themselves to. Getting a message out there succinctly is useful anywhere we preach.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By the way at least four or five people in our church heard this so there is an audience out there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;And this is what I said&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the first time I have been to the Southport Flower Show and I must admit to feeling slightly out of place. Surrounded, as we are, by displays that show what can be achieved in the garden and people who know a rose from a rhododendron I feel totally inadequate. My gardening prowess seems limited to running a mower over the lawn every now and then and trying to prevent an invasion of the weeds from taking control. As for the plants I want to encourage, I seem to have a knack for taking healthy greenery&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But here in Southport you get a real understanding of what can be achieved when you work in harmony with your garden, a range of splendid, artistic creations that make you take a breath and marvel at the beauty. Splendid examples of what can happen we work in partnership with nature.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think my problem is that I don’t have a relationship with my garden I don’t know anything about it or understand it. I don’t know what the soil type is, where the areas of light and shade are, what are the damp and dryer areas? So I don’t know what to plant there, what will thrive and what fails.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And with the individual plants I don’t know when to prune and when to leave alone. I have no idea how to prune, where to make the cut that will help the plant grow and thrive. So I hack and hope wondering why the results are ultimately less than successful. My problem is that I am not working with nature but working against it. If I understood more, worked with the soil, the sun, the plants then I too could maybe produce something worthy to be displayed here at the Flower Show.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is an important message that comes from the early stories of Genesis. When God first placed humanity in the garden he gave us responsibility to work for it and with it. In the garden he taught us about gaining an understand of the environment around us, what is good for us and what would bring about our ruin. But the choice of what to do with that knowledge was up to us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Genesis records that when we were introduced to the garden we were given dominion over it, but that means responsibility not power. A responsibility to work alongside the natural world not to use and misuse it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But as we are each part of that creation, then that level of responsibility extends to each other. We need to develop and nurture good strong relationships with each other as we support one another through the journey of life.  If we are to do this then could we not think more in the mould of the gardener learning about the corner of creation he is called to tend. We need to learn about the conditions that will enable each other to flourish.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-9140052780151309385?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/9140052780151309385/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=9140052780151309385' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/9140052780151309385'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/9140052780151309385'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2010/08/at-southport-flower-show.html' title='At Southport Flower Show'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1562694094079561841.post-5105832274120927473</id><published>2010-08-14T12:02:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2010-08-22T15:34:28.321+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Changing the 9:45 service</title><content type='html'>&lt;em&gt;Article on this drafted for our parish magazine&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Looking at the 9:45 service from September onwards&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From September we are launching a different approach to teaching within the 9.45 service as we look at different ways to grow the congregation into a community seeking to reach out into the town.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The approach has come about following our thinking, praying and consultation around how to develop the congregation and the possibilities of establishing a church plant. “the vision of having a plant at Ormskirk CofE School has really invigorated our thinking about the 9:45 service” Rev Chris Jones told us, “although we decided the plant was not the right road to travel all the discussions have led to us working on how we can bring a fresh approach to the 9:45”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since its creation around 13 years ago the 9.45 has grown and developed but as with anything we do we need to look at how we can improve.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We want to develop three areas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;how we develop the worship so we all get a deep sense of encounter with God on a Sunday morning.&lt;br /&gt;how we build the congregation into a true welcoming missional community looking for ways&lt;br /&gt;how we can better serve Ormskirk and the wider community.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And we think that to achieve this we all need a deeper understanding of what the Bible is teaching us and God is calling us to do. This is where we will start. By looking at how we can revamp our teaching to help us deepen our faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So instead of following the lectionary we will be working through different themes or books of the bible in short connected teaching series. Most topics or themes will last a period of four weeks which will mean we can really engage with the ideas and gain from having a continual teaching week in week out. So over a four week period we should be able to get to grips with a topic in some depth. And the teaching involves all. The Sunday Schools and adults will be learning the same ideas in ways that are appropriate to our age and interest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Each topic is being planned by a small group of the congregation who, working with one of our preaching and leadership team, have looked at what to teach, how we can deliver that teaching as well as developing offer resources and opportunities for those who get enthused by that particular topic and wish to explore it in greater depth. And while the theme will run over the four week period each service will stand on its own so if you can’t come to the whole block you will still be involved.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So as well as the teaching on Sunday we will be suggesting books to read, films to watch and online resources to go to. And as learning is a two way process we want people to be able to interact with these topics. We will have a midweek group for those who want to discuss the topic further and for those who are technologically minded we hope to have an online discussion group.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The pattern of services until Christmas is:-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sept 5th                     Start of term introducing the new approach, looking at John 21 and thinking about how we move on in life and faith&lt;br /&gt;Sept 12th to Oct 3rd:     We look at the topic of grace, how God’s grace is freely available and what we should do in response&lt;br /&gt;Oct 10th:                    Harvest – a service focusing on what harvest means in a world where so many hunger&lt;br /&gt;Oct 17th to Nov 7th:      Studying James’ letter which gives us a good grounding in how we should be putting our faith into action&lt;br /&gt;Nov 14th                     Remembrance Sunday&lt;br /&gt;Nov 21st                     A service on prayer and different ways in which we can sustain ourselves in prayer&lt;br /&gt;Nov 28th to Dec 19th     A series on Advent – taking us on a journey towards Christmas as we prepare to meet Jesus&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are really excited about these changes and pray that we can all come to a greater understanding of how our faith impacts on our daily lives and how we can carry our Sunday worship into our weekly living so we can follow Jesus’ Great Commission “to go and make disciples of all nations”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you want to know more about the new way of teaching at the 9:45 service, or want to be involved in the planning of services then contact Chris or Stuart.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chris Jones; Stuart Haynes&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1562694094079561841-5105832274120927473?l=revintraining.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/feeds/5105832274120927473/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1562694094079561841&amp;postID=5105832274120927473' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5105832274120927473'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1562694094079561841/posts/default/5105832274120927473'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://revintraining.blogspot.com/2010/08/changing-945-service.html' title='Changing the 9:45 service'/><author><name>Stuart Haynes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16897796853490935429</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sbREw0RrtMU/TEGcdvMjkuI/AAAAAAAAABQ/rMiOCQ7PRb4/S220/35418_409541864932_715169932_4164096_2872858_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
